i think what she is saying i right we need to talk about how to help the new awaken remember eerything

Lady Nessa wrote:

I am gonna ask that no one brings up the whole matter with LD in this
House. I believe that we all need to lay it to rest and let it go. If
we should be talking about anything, it should be about how we can
teach other and newly awaken about who they are. If you have any
subjects you would like to start, then please fell free to start up a
convo…

Also…I respectfully request that you not post messages for other
people. It is very denigrating to the person being asked to do it. To
place someone in a group as a spy, or as a mouth is very cowardly.

oh come on guys. Drama is interesting. What else do we have to talk about? This is why Gossip is so prevalent in human society. If you arent sharing factual news your probably discussing what someone else shared as news. Just like on the news channels. You have informative shows and discussion boards. Beyond a little gossip i can only imagine what we would have to talk about.  " so we all vamps?" "yup", "well thats specail". "yup". And then a whole lot of silence. lol i prefer having something to talk about myself. Though if you dont like the topic then start a new one. And then we can all go on that.

Kyle Blanchard wrote:

I agree with Hak Takari, the reason I joined this house is because of
all the drama that has been going on with HOA and LD, I do not want to
see this continue in this house.  We must all learn to put the past
behind us, and start anew, if we can't do this, then i feel I do not
belong here either.

Kyle


--- In The_House_OF_MAAT@yahoogroups.com, "the_takari"
wrote:
>
> I warned you about drama, if this thread continues I will walk away
> from this house.  If you are that damned concerned about his words
> take the apropriate action by doing the research and informing him of
> the exact nature of his Liable Defamation of Character and your intent
> to file a legal lawsuit if he continues.  This is the one and only
> time I will say this....any more drama from the past of HOA or
> anything else and I walk away.
>
> Hak Takari

A man after my own heart!  As a child of dreams and nightmares, I am drawn to dramatic encounters and such.  However, I understand that this place is certainly a place of learning.  By the same token, I understand that many parasites, vampires and otherkin alike, feed on drama.  I should know, as drama is one of the greatest feeding methods my kind has.

 

As such, once our house is established and more of my kind are present, I will see if I can manage the fae court of our house.  I will tell everyone that there will be an extreme amount of drama in such a house.. and, as such, anyone can look to it for entertainment and feeding.  However, at the same time, I think the Elder of Magistrates will agree with me that such drama will have to stay IN court, else we end up with people going off on the dramatic events, and others leaving the house because of it, etc.  I don't want a repeat of the events recently.. for though it fed me well, and though I found great amusement in it, it hurt too many people and destroyed a possibly much-needed central ground.

 

So in summary, if you want gossip, if you want drama, wait for the Department of Otherkin to gather more of me ;)

tim allgood wrote:

I really don't want to continue with the dramatics beyond what I must because of who I am.  In fact, I stopped another of the house's elders from posting on the subject because I feel it's beating a dead horse, especially since the one who most of the animosity is directed to isn't here.  So I agree.  It is time we dropped the subject.  If people chose to follow someone else, I won't be upset, so long as they don't come into the house and give a totally skewed goodbye that made it sound like we were trying to tell them who their friends can and can't be.  I won't be upset over that, either, but I will make a short reply on what actually happened so that people don't misinterperet what was said.  Anyway, I hope that we move into more productive conversations and posts than what we've had to deal with for the past few days.. as much as I love to eat the ambience, its not good for most people here, especially any newly awakened that have joined up to learn.  Once the tension eases up, we shouldn't have to deal with things like this anymore.

Carmyne wrote:

Is this really what it's come down to? Do you all really believe that
"those people" are trying to turn people against you. That makes me
laugh. I'm not trying to cause more drama...however, I think if you
would stop..open your eyes and realize that this is not about us vs.
them you would find yourselves much more productive at what you do. I
am not defending them, they do what they feel they must....however, I
also know that the BS they have had to deal with in the 3 weeks they
have been in the scene is rediculous. Everyone says they want the
drama to stop, yet everyone continues to post things like this. It
angers me that you were so ready to codemn Kyle and I for questioning
you, and yet you are the core of the drama. You guys continue to post
about people....you guys continue it. If you want it to stop, then
stop. Tim, as well as everyone else have made their decision. I can
only hope that we all know where our loyalties, finally, lie and we
can maintain it. I promise all of you......none is trying to take
people away, if any of us were we could do it in a much more tactful
manner...you have just pissed some people off, and they left on their
own. That is what it comes down to.







--- In The_House_OF_MAAT@yahoogroups.com, "Veiled Tempest"
wrote:
>
> I really hate to say I told you so, but I knew this was coming when
> he told me he was immune to having his thoughts controlled.  To
> restate what Nina told the group, we did NOT order him to bow to our
> whims or to not associate with certain people.  I simply told him to
> be careful because these people are good at getting people to
> believe them over others.  They are still trying to turn people
> against us, just as they have in the past.  It's stupid vendetta,
> nothing more.  They are nice people, and I think I told him that,
> but the fact is that they do have a bad habit of decieving, which
> they even admitted to.  I am very sad to see that what I said would
> happen actually happen, so I think it'd be appropriate to warn
> everyone that, no matter how "invincible" you think you are, if you
> do not admit that someone could be a threat to you, you are blind
> when they make their move.  This is what happened, and I can
> understand if he merely wished to leave the house and follow them,
> but he made attacks on us to attempt to pull others into their
> control.
>
> Everyone that knows how to shield themselves from mental influence,
> please, do so at all times when dealing with the occult.  You will
> see that some of the people you trust have little deceptions, and
> others have big deceptions.  No matter what, KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN and
> FOLLOW YOUR HEART.

Look.  I can't help it if two specific things I was testing to see if trust was worthy of being given were broken.  I was looking to see if these people were truly looking for peace and love, and the words I said were spread to everyone else in an attempt to bring me down.  I didn't start it.  I'm not paranoid, I'm just right.  And I don't have the logs.. I will let whoever does show them.  I'm sure that said "spy" has already shared much of what I said with you.  Seems you all share whatever I say with you in confidence.. I apologized that the drama may be brought back by it, because I know that most of the people here don't want to deal with it.  But the fact remains that people did what they did.  I don't feel like bending over, fetching the lube, and letting them repeat their mistakes.  I'd rather point out that they're obviously too human in mind to let this shit go and just be nice to us.

Carmyne wrote:

LOL...you see it's this crap that makes Kyle and I paranoid. Could
that message be any more cryptic? You have already kicked out
fyre....and although I really don't give a damn what you think of
me.....I can't help but think this crazy attempt to root out "spys" is
absolutly rediculous. Nessa talks up and down about unity...yet
Fallenstar "looks for spys". So, what is it? Are you going to trust or
not? I don't have the time to sit at my comp all day and watch for
posts....as I'm sure nobody does. Who's loyalty lies where? And what
is this about posting logs? I really don't care who you think betrayed
you....posting logs is most of the drama to begin with....So, what's
your next move? Are you going to allow fallenstar to post logs and
start up all this shit with someone and let the drama ensue? or are
you going to see what he has to say and take care of it one on one?
Remeber what Lady lilith said about maturity.....

Always.
Carmyne



--- In The_House_OF_MAAT@yahoogroups.com, "Veiled Tempest"
wrote:
>
> So.. today was a rather eventful day.  Managed to root out a few
> spies.. confirm a few suspicions..  Chances are, you'll see more
> about it soon enough, so I'll take the time to clear up a few
> things..
>
> For one, I've always known what I am.  I act dumb to see how full of
> it other people are, to see if they can see it.  Obviously, most
> don't.  Most can't.  That isn't my fault, its theirs.  It proves to
> me that their arrogance isn't backed up.  Let them claim what they
> want to, the fact that they couldn't figure out what I was doing is
> proof that they're not as good as they tell people.
>
> By the way.. on the topic of what will be done about the things I
> found out.. I'll let the group decide once someone posts the log and
> such.  I really hoped that the drama wouldn't come back so soon..
> but, I guess we have to deal with problems yet again.. already.  I
> apologize for getting it done so quickly.
>
> I truly am disappointed that these people broke trust, that these
> people are not honest and open, that these people are not kind and
> accepting.  If these are the kinds of people out there, I'm glad I
> came here.