If i am allowed to post this and it doesnt get deleted by the moderators it will be amazing, so i will post this response in 2 places.Here and on the olf HOA website. http://guru.angryangelapparel.com/anu/html
br> I know i said i wasnt going to respond to this because it was pointless, but i have changed my mind based on the fact that whats being said about the events that have taken place over the last few days is being twisted and manipulated to try and discredit me. Some of what you have read is true, but it is from a distorted point of view.

Im going to be going to great legnths to get you every detail of whats happened, i do not use message archives because they are an invasion of privacy in my opinion and the people who use them just use them to start drama. anyway here is my reccolection of the ENTIRE situation with Lady Nessa from the day we met.

It was Mid november i believe, 2nd week, i believe around the 8th or 9th, I was in a chatroom with a few members of the House Of Kindred Spirits and in the room was Nessa. Nessa was in the room complaining about The head of the HOKS group and how she had kicked Nessa out for no reason. I knew the people at the HOKS so i offered to hear Nessa's side of the story and see what exactly what was going on.

Nessa began to tell me about how her and a certain other person in the group had been talking in private and how the head of the HOKS group was jealous. Nessa repeatedly said the same thing about the HEAD of the HOKS, "she thinks im a threat to her, because im more beautiful, and all the men want me" (thats not an exact quote but its close to what was said).

At this point i had asked Nessa if she would be interested in getting tutilage from the HOA and explained i would talk to the head of HOKS on her behalf to try and smooth things over so there was no conflict.

Nessa went to the website and checked out the compendium and FAQ's, she felt it was a good fit and decided to join the HOA.

The following day I was able to get a hold on the head of the HOKS group and listen to her version of the story. She had told me what Nessa had told me were lies. That the reason Nessa was removed from the group was because she was a role player and that they had all met previously in person at a vampire meetup in las vegas, She had began to explain how Nessa would talk about things from fantasy and fiction and anything they tried to tell her about real vampirism she would misunderstand and speak about from a fantasy point of view. At this point i spoke with another HOKS member who was the 3rd party Nessa and the Head of HOKS were supposedly fighting about.

When i spoke with him he explained the exact same thing to me the Head of HOKS did. Explained every detail exactly the same with no pausing or coaching. i found it very interesting that none of what Nessa said about the jealousy and the "relationship" aspects was mentioned but some of what they said did correlate with dates and times in Nessas story. I thanked him for his time and i looked to ask nessa what was going on.

When i found nessa later that evening and asked her about what they said, she went right back to her story. At this point i had told her that the 2 others involved were both told the exact same story. Nessa immediately got very defensive and agressive. I calmed her down by offering to tutor her myself.

She saw it as a kind gesture and decided to let it go, so she said. it was at this point i had made my 1st request of her as her mentor. I had asked her to avoid that group and those that were in it all together. The reason i asked this is because talking and arguing with them was not the focus any longer, the focus was completely on Nessas education and any drama would distract her from learning what she would need to know.

At this point Nessa promised (without me asking her to promise) that she would avoid them and not speak to them. I said thank you and we went about on her path to self discovery.

During the conversation we would have on messenger and the legnthy conversation on the phone, Nessa would get frustrated not understanding how her belief of vampires at the time was so ficticious. I had explained to her this happens to alot of people and not to worry about it because it was not the main focus, learning what was real and what wasnt was the focus. She agreed and we continued.

A few days later myself and nessa were on the phone for about 4 hours, we were discussing my belief in the Annunaki (because she showed a spark of interest and asked me to explain it) she began to see correlations between certain gods and goddesses and herself. At that point we becan talking about how she felt she could trust me, that she knew me forever, and all the like. I agreed that her energy felt familiar. It was at this point we started to discuss some of her dreams she was having.

Once we started talking about the dreams alot of things came out from her point of view that seemed similar to me aswell, almost as if we DID know each other from the past somewhere. As we talked more about it we thoght we had found the reason. At this point we let it go.

I talked to nessa again a few days later and she had told me she talked to one of the people from HOKS, i had asked her why and she said because they called her to threated her, i cant remember the exact term she used but it was blood letting or blood bounty or something like that. She had said they placed one on her head. It was at this point i was confused and approaced the head of HOKS again to see what was going on.

Speaking to the head of HOKS again she asured me nothing of the sort was going on, noone was out to cause nessa physical harm and she made the promise to try and avoid nessa aswell. She then began to tell me nessa would email and message her all the time since i had begun teaching her. i found this interesting because nessa had promised me she wouldnt. (strike number 1)

A few days later (possibly the next) i asked nessa about this, she admitted she did try to talk to wendy to get information, when i asked her why she didnt come to me she never responded just changed the subject back to her work and her education, So i let it slide (my mistake)

For the next few weeks me and nessa spoke almost daily via phone and internet.We discussed various aspects of vampirism and how it tied into her life, We discussed goddesses which as a point she kept bringing up and loved to talk about and kept comparing herslef to certain ones, how she had their qualities and so on.

A few week or so following that i recieved my cellphone bill n the mail. Unfortunately for me it was too expensive for me to pay so had decided to let them temporaily shut them off so i could get the money together. Once the phones were shut off nessa contacted me via messenger and told me she needed to talk to me. I had explained that my phone had been shut off cause i couldnt afford the bill, It was at this point she offered to pay it. i tried talking her out of it for days, then i discussed it with aliana, Aliana had decided to do it based on the condition that we pay Nessa back the following week. Nessa agreed and placed the payment on her cerit card. the following week when we had the money we were going to send it to Nessa but nessa refused to take it. She explained to us that if she took the money from us it would be bad karma ...bla bla bla, So aliana and I thanked her for her generous gift and moved on with her education.

A few weeks later while continuing her education Nessa called me, she had told me she had been a member of the Las Vegas vampire meetup group, and she was going to attend the next event. She called me after the event and explained how she met this gentelman, it was at this point she began to tell me about how he spoke of the circle of the nine and the pillars of balance, it was at this point my computer gaming side took over and rememberd the game BLOOD OMEN - Legasy Of Kain, I began to ask her if shes positive thats what she heard and she said YES. A this point i let her know the gentelman was a RPer and it would be best for her if she avoided him. She explained how they were just talking and she understood to take what he said with a grain of salt, and to be cautious. i agreed

About 4 days later nessa called me frantic with her friend amanda on the phone, they explined to me how this man was telling them they were goddesses and that they were part of the circle of 9, how to consumate their relationships to the circle they had to have sex with him, At this point i had asked amanda and Nessa to avoid this man. They both agreed it would be for the best if they did. Then i came up with anoter idea. i asked amanda to get close to him while nessa staying away. i asked amanda to get to know him more (actually now that i think about it, it may have been reversed) I asked Nesaa to get close to him and amanda to avoid him.

The following time i had spoken with them was christmas eve. I was shopping with my friend jen. they called me and explained to me how this guy was a freak he was an idiot and how hes the bigest RPer they ever met. Amanda explained how she knew him from the occult forums and that she was going to make sure noone on the occult forums fell victim to this. i agreed it was a good idea and suggeasted the both avoid him. Again the both agreed.

Newyears came and went without a hitch and everything was fine. i got a call around my birthday that this guy was starting shit again with nessa, So i went to the vegas message boards and made a post explaining how this guy was dangerous and should be avoided for the safety of the communtiiy. Witin minutes of posting it his g/f messaged nessa.

At this point i messages his g/f and explained to him what he was doing was Bullshit and that she was being tricked by him. She explained to me how she thought i was jealous bla bla bla,.... About 30 minutes later i gave them my phone number to call me.

We got in a heated discussion on the phone, when i mentioned the circle of the nine they immediately corrected me and told me it was the circle of the NIGHT not circle of the nine. Being adept in the occult i knew the circle of night was a very real thing and proceeded to apologise for making myself look like the Ass, i explained how i went by what i was TOLD by nessa and how she had explained it to me. They proceded to tell me they were sorry for the confusion aswell and that they tried correcting nessa on many occcasions but it wouldnt sink in.

They had also agreed not to speak with anyone regarding vampirism, but if someone approached them with questions about magick then they would help guide that person. I agreed and all was well.

That night i spoke with nessa again and explained the situation, she got very offeneded that i was so nice to them, and we agreed again she would not talk to him about things concerning vampirism and otherkin, she made the promise to me once again.

I got a PM from temujin the next day saying how nessa had contacted him earlier about gargoyles and what they were. I immediately contacted nessa and asked her why she broke her promise, she began to studder on the phone looking for an excuse, and it was at that point i told her she needed to leave the HOA and not be a part of it cause she was a constant source of drama. (There were other smaller issues along the way to all of this that arent relevant to the story so I have omitted them.)

At this point i recieved a PM from an HOA member saying how Nessa and lillth were in a private room descussing this.

Now according to the HOA compendium things like this are to be handeled through the HOUSE OF MAGISTRATES. Not the house of etiquette. They were both in violation of the compendium at this point.

I asked this person to invite me into the room so i could see what was going on. It was at this point i heard nessa lieing to debra and i had asked debra to not listen to her, Debra told me it was her JOB to listen to both sides of the story and come to an amicable agreement (actully its the magistrates job to do this when its 2 heads of a house or a head of a house and an assistant) i repeately told them not to continue the conversation and they ignored me.

It was at this point i gave the 30 seconds for everyone to leave the room. Their were regular members there in the room that were not heads of a house present and had nothing to do with the situation. In order to keep these students safe and not ruin their concentration on education i asked them all to leave.

At this point Nessa and Lillth made another chat that i followed lillth into, they began to slander me and say i had no right to do what i did. bla bla bla

At this point i started to mention all the things both of them had done in the past that i walked away from and let go because they were assets to the HOA, Debra got extremely offended, at this point i asked them both to stop the games and leave the HOA.

Then the rest is history as they say....

I hope you can all see how misconception can turn people against one another.

Nessa caused the same problem in 2 other groups aswell, HOKS and The Vampire Meetup Group in Vegas and shes doing it again by starting her own unsanctioned house in las vegas.

Good luck
Dividian