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From:  fallen12star <fallen12star@y...>
Date: Sun Jan 9, 2005 7:48pm
Subject: Greetings to all
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Hello to everyone that has joined this group! I am Veiled Tempest,
Fallen Star, and a handful of other names that sound catchy. Though
I am head of Otherkin, it seems I have also ended up public
relations, so I have decided to introduce myself and everyone to our
group.
I am born of chaos and fantasy. Call that what you will, but I am
of the otherkin who believe in all things, whose inner natures are
change and madness, and who push their illusions and dreams onto the
world. As one of our strongest feeding methods is drama and
emotion, I've been pretty full for the last few days! I hope that
all of us can get over the things that have been going on, because
it is for the good of all that we put such childish things behind us.
As stated in our description, our group is about education and
unity. Though many of us have personal issues with one another, let
such things stay in our human masques. We are bigger than that, we
are stronger than that. We NEED to focus on each other and
ourselves, in regards to our paths of enlightenment. We will be
unable to teach each other if we're too busy defending ourselves and
defaming others. So, please, for the sake of the newly awakened and
the exhausted ancients alike, keep this forum flame free! We are
here to learn and share, not to start vendettas and destroy each
other's reputations. Such behavior is disgustingly human.
That all being said, I'm glad to see everyone here, and hope that we
can all help each other grow! Blessed be to all, and may all of
your dreams be manifest.
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From: Deborah <lilith_dream@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 9, 2005 8:20pm
Subject: What Happened
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It started with the asst to the house of Newly Awakened Nessa.
She was running a charter of the HOA in Las Vegas
She was also going to the local vamp meetups (she was asked to keep
an eye on the group by Dividian). The person who ran the meetup,
Kyle joined the HOA and due to a violation of the rules, was removed
from the HOA (I hope I am getting this right since I heard about it
second hand). When he was removed, Nessa was TOLD (demanded,
ordered, etc) not to talk to him....fine(Factors #1,#2,#12)
On the 7th, Nessa had a question about gargoyles for a new member.
She asked me, and she asked Werewolf, but we did not have the info
she was looking for, so she e-mailed another member of the vamp
meetup group. One she knew had info on Gargoyles. His name is
Timujin. Timujin knew Div didnt like him, so he contacted Div and
asked permission to talk with Nessa about Gargoyles.
Dividian blew a gasket and removed Nessa saying he told her not to
talk to Timujin, this is not true. He told Nessa not to talk to
Kyle. Dividian says he told her not to talk to Kyle or Timujin.
(communication difficulties) He then removed Nessa from the HOA
because "she broke HIS rules and did not listen to him." (Factors
#1,#2,#12)
Dividian then proceeded to tell everyone that if they talk to Nessa
they will be removed from the HOA (Factors #1,#2,#12)
I, being the HOH of Etiquette am afforded privilidges to speak to
people when other members are not...so I went to Dividian and tried
to get his side of the story. He would not elaborate other than to
say his decision was final...again a violation of the Cult Evaluation
Frame #3,#4.
I was then asked to come into a private conference to hear Nessas
story, which was told by her sister who wittnessed the entire
situation. I have 32 pages of logs from the discussion and some PM's
that were relevant)
Dividian was invited into the chat, and proceeded to blast Nessa, and
still not allowing her to tell her story, bashing her. (Factor #14)
Dividian then gave all the HOA members 30 seconds to vacate the room
or they would be removed from the HOA (Factors #1,#2,#12)
we all waited till the last second before leaving.
I immediatly started a new conference and re-invited those from the
other room. Dividian followed me into the new room
then proceeded to remove all the people who were in the room from the
HOA, then, he said he was shutting down the HOA for good.
Dividian has violated 6 seperate factors on the Bonewits cult
evaluation frame with his leadership style. #1,#2,#3,#4,#12 and #14
In another post I will go into how these factors were affected if the
group needs clarification)
The Advanced Bonewits' Cult Danger Evaluation Frame (ABCDEF
LOCATED
AT http://www.neopagan.net/ABCDEF.html)
Score each factor from 1-10, the higher the total at the end, the
more dangerous the group
1 Internal Control: Amount of internal political and social power
exercised by leader(s) over members; lack of clearly defined
organizational rights for members.
2 External Control: Amount of external political and social influence
desired or obtained; emphasis on directing members' external
political and social behavior.
3 Wisdom/Knowledge Claimed by leader(s); amount of infallibility
declared or implied about decisions or doctrinal/scriptural
interpretations; number and degree of unverified and/or unverifiable
credentials claimed.
4 Wisdom/Knowledge Credited to leader(s) by members; amount of trust
in decisions or doctrinal/scriptural interpretations made by leader
(s); amount of hostility by members towards internal or external
critics and/or towards verification efforts.
5 Dogma: Rigidity of reality concepts taught; amount of doctrinal
inflexibility or "fundamentalism;" hostility towards
relativism and
situationalism.
6 Recruiting: Emphasis put on attracting new members; amount of
proselytizing; requirement for all members to bring in new ones.
7 Front Groups: Number of subsidiary groups using different names
from that of main group, especially when connections are hidden.
8 Wealth: Amount of money and/or property desired or obtained by
group; emphasis on members' donations; economic lifestyle of
leader
(s) compared to ordinary members.
9 Sexual Manipulation of members by leader(s) of non-tantric groups;
amount of control exercised over sexuality of members in terms of
sexual orientation, behavior, and/or choice of partners.
10 Sexual Favoritism: Advancement or preferential treatment dependent
upon sexual activity with the leader(s) of non-tantric groups.
11 Censorship: Amount of control over members' access to outside
opinions on group, its doctrines or leader(s).
12 Isolation: Amount of effort to keep members from communicating
with non-members, including family, friends and lovers.
13 Dropout Control: Intensity of efforts directed at preventing or
returning dropouts.
14 Violence: Amount of approval when used by or for the group, its
doctrines or leader(s).
15 Paranoia: Amount of fear concerning real or imagined enemies;
exaggeration of perceived power of opponents; prevalence of
conspiracy theories.
16 Grimness: Amount of disapproval concerning jokes about the group,
its doctrines or its leader(s).
17 Surrender of Will: Amount of emphasis on members not having to be
responsible for personal decisions; degree of individual
disempowerment created by the group, its doctrines or its leader(s).
18 Hypocrisy: amount of approval for actions which the group
officially considers immoral or unethical, when done by or for the
group, its doctrines or leader(s); willingness to violate the
group's
declared principles for political, psychological, social, economic,
military, or other gain.
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From: Deborah <lilith_dream@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 9, 2005 8:22pm
Subject: Log part one (Very Long Post)
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Conference I was invited to originally 1-7-05
the_lady_coral (8:55:01 PM): Deborah you there?
lady_lilith_dreams (8:55:12 PM): yeah...I think so
lady_nessa_hoa (8:57:24 PM): the reason why i am talking is because
nina went to go pick up one of our other members.
lady_nessa_hoa (8:57:46 PM): the reason she is that way is because
she is being falsly accused of thing, her and amanda.
lady_nessa_hoa (8:58:04 PM): Dividian is being told lies by people
who have been telling lies to everyone else.
the_lady_coral (8:58:05 PM): who is Amanda?
lady_nessa_hoa (8:58:38 PM): Typing: Mandy Talking: Haley
lady_nessa_hoa (9:01:21 PM): Dividian was told by Temojin that Amanda
(Nina's really good friend) was at his house two nights ago. Two
nights ago (Wednesday 1.5.05) there was a Vampire meetup that Kyle is
the organizer of.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:02:15 PM): Nina and Amanda were going. They wanted
to know if Haley would go and she said no because she wasn't
comfortable with the fact that kyle and temojin were going to be
there and she didn't want to cause drama.
the_lady_coral (9:02:54 PM): Back up a minute... why did Nina and
Amanda go if they knew Kyle organized that meetup?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:03:06 PM): That was the two nights ago and everyone
was there until 1 and Nina dropped her off at home and then she was
trying to get her daughter asleep and called Z.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:03:47 PM): Kyle was warning Mandy (me) to be
careful.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:04:00 PM): Knowing that I was going to be coming to
Nina's house.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:04:13 PM): They went to keep the piece and not
cause any drama.
the_lady_coral (9:04:22 PM): Okay and Kyle is your (Mandy) ex fiance
or something like that right?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:04:27 PM): yes
lady_nessa_hoa (9:04:46 PM): Haley knew that if she went that she
would hurt someone because of the people there.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:05:54 PM): They went to mingle and so that they
could report back to dividian as to what was taking place.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:06:12 PM): They didn't go to cause trouble, but
wanted to keep him in the loop as to what was going on out here.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:07:22 PM): Last night, nina was told that there was
going to be a major post written on the vampire meetup board that
kyle runs. That post also had something slightly to do with me and
was posted by fyre.
the_lady_coral (9:07:39 PM): Okay who is Fyre?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:07:57 PM): Next thing we know phones are blowing
up. And nina talks to dividian and he tells her to our knowledge not
to talk to Kyle.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:08:12 PM): Fyre is temojin's lady friend.
the_lady_coral (9:08:33 PM): and who is Temojin? I don't know these
people.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:09:05 PM): They are part of a group that believe
that they are the circle of nine. Amanda went to talk to him on
Christmas Day. Long before any of this ever happened
lady_nessa_hoa (9:09:11 PM): Temojin is Mordin.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:09:41 PM): To be honest we don't know. That is just
what we have seen and heard around us.
the_lady_coral (9:09:44 PM): Okay so Temojin is Mordin... who is
Mordin? Still don't know 'em.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:10:21 PM): Thyey have been trying to suck people in
including Z and kyle.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:10:36 PM): Since Kyle has started hanging out with
Temojin things have been getting much wrose.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:10:53 PM): He has been trying to start his own
group telling people that nonsense is truth.'
lady_lilith_dreams (9:11:31 PM): So Kyle, Temojin and Wendy are all
in this rpg group
lady_lilith_dreams (9:12:09 PM): the circle of night/nine
lady_nessa_hoa (9:12:16 PM): Dividian told us not to talk to kyle and
since then he has been calling nonstop and noone has talked to him
lady_nessa_hoa (9:12:58 PM): Mandy is typing and Amanda is with Nina
picking up Z
lady_nessa_hoa (9:13:20 PM): Sorry about the typing. I am typing as
quickly as I possibly can.
lady_lilith_dreams (9:13:49 PM): ok, so Mandy, Amanda, Z, Nessa, and
Haley are all HOA
lady_nessa_hoa (9:13:59 PM): that is correct.
the_lady_coral (9:14:04 PM): Yeah from my understanding they are
lady_nessa_hoa (9:14:17 PM): Z and Mandy are newer members. Brand
spanking new members to the HOA
the_lady_coral (9:14:24 PM): Z and Mandy are new members of the HoA
from Nina's Las Vegas group.
lady_lilith_dreams (9:14:42 PM): Temojin, Kyle, and Wendy are RPGers,
lady_nessa_hoa (9:14:43 PM): Thank you so very much
lady_lilith_dreams (9:14:53 PM): Wendy runs the vamp meetup
there...right?
the_lady_coral (9:15:01 PM): They are the ones starting shit from
what Hayley is telling me
the_lady_coral (9:15:18 PM): Kyle runs the Meetup group I believe
lady_nessa_hoa (9:15:21 PM): Basically what has happened today was Z
was asking questions about Gargoyles
lady_nessa_hoa (9:15:27 PM): yes and yes
lady_nessa_hoa (9:16:17 PM): Nina was asking a bunch of people and no
one had any answers so she in turn IMed Temojin asking for websites.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:16:54 PM): She did not know that dividian didn't
want her talking to him
the_lady_coral (9:19:14 PM): So let me get this straight, one of
Nina's members named Z asked her for info on Gargoyles and she
emailed Div to get info on that but also went to Timojin/Mordin to
get info WITHOUT knowing that Div didn't want her to talk to him?
the_lady_coral (9:20:12 PM): and did she email Div before or after
talking to Timojin/Mordin?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:21:04 PM): thats ok, we are getting conformation on
that answer before we post it
the_lady_coral (9:21:22 PM): Okay so Nina is on the phone with yall
right now?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:21:25 PM): yes
the_lady_coral (9:21:36 PM): Aight let me known when you get the
answers to that.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:22:44 PM): She said that she didn't talk to
Dividian but she had IMed lady lilith and Wareworlf 31
lady_nessa_hoa (9:23:41 PM): She didn't know she couldn't speak to
Temojin. And then all of a sudden Temojin is calling Div.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:23:46 PM): She never emailed Div.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:24:16 PM): She went to lady lilith and warewolf 31
first and then went to temojin because she wasn't able to get any
info.
the_lady_coral (9:25:06 PM): Okay so she went to one of the HoA
members first to get the info and THEN she went to ask Timojin/Mordin
if he had info on Gargoyles without knowing that Div didn't want her
to talk to him in the first place?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:25:27 PM): They only time she talked to Div about
this is when he called her freaking out on her. She was never able to
get her info out there.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:25:42 PM): Yes that is correct.
the_lady_coral (9:25:57 PM): This is sounding like a misunderstanding
turned into some bullshit with "he said she said" bullshit included.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:26:19 PM): coral you are exactly right.
the_lady_coral (9:27:17 PM): I hear from Haley AND Nina earlier that
Nina's phone is being "Blown up" by Kyle and them because they want
to make her life a living hell. They are pissing her off and she
wants nothing to do with Kyle, Wendy, and Timojin/Mordin... is that
right?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:27:52 PM): The thing that bothers Haley is that Div
knows that Temojin, kyle and Wendy have been the route of the
problems. When Div called he wouldn't let nina say what really
happened. On top of that Temojin has been saying nina called when she
only IMed.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:28:46 PM): Since everything has blowed up people
from the other groups have been taunting her through IM.
the_lady_coral (9:29:10 PM): So Temojoin/Mordin and the other two
have been lying about bullshit because they just don't like Nina?
lady_nessa_hoa (9:29:18 PM): Yes
lady_nessa_hoa (9:29:43 PM): Not only do they not like Nina but they
don't like other people in the group.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:29:54 PM): They have been threatning Nina since
last night.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:30:23 PM): She has been trying not to cause drama
and that is what she trying not to do. And the same person who has
been there for him is being thrown to the dogs.
the_lady_coral (9:31:18 PM): Okay given that I went through something
similar not to long ago with the "He said she said" bullshit and Div
yelling at me and threatening to kick me out... I say all of yall try
to calm down. Ignore all the people harassing you into oblivion and
get the facts straight and out there like we're doing here in
conference. Then send it to Div via email when everyone is calmed
down.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:31:22 PM): Haley finds it fascinating that
everything is coming full circle and the people who truly care for
Nina are the ones in chat right now.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:32:30 PM): Nina said fuck that, if he can't trust
her and believe her, she thinks she shouldn't appologize for
something she didn't do.
the_lady_coral (9:32:35 PM): When Div gets pissed... he gets
EXTREMELY pissed off. We all know this. Give yourselves time to calm
down and do what you gotta do.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:33:54 PM): Nina is extremely pissed and feels that
she shouldn't have to kiss ass and appologize when she hasn't done
anything.
lady_lilith_dreams (9:34:13 PM): Instead of thinking of
yourself...think about what is good for the community
lady_lilith_dreams (9:34:37 PM): Calm down first
lady_nessa_hoa (9:35:09 PM): I think the main reason why she is so
upset about this is because she feels Dividian has just smeared her
name.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:37:02 PM): Haley thinks the situation is that there
have been very badly hurt feelings. There are two people who feel
very victimized here.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:38:32 PM): Haley is new to the HOA, but if you have
a problem then you should listen to every side of the story before
you decide to kick them out. She knows she is close to the situation
because she is her sister, but something are not right here.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:39:45 PM): An organization is suppost to be helping
people and the community and you have another oraganization that has
been smearing peoples names and causing trouble.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:40:20 PM): Smearing by going onto the HOA board and
Nina board making her look bad.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:40:36 PM): Smearing going on by Dividian.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:43:10 PM): Dividian also threatened Nina.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:43:37 PM): He basically allowed Wendy, Temojin and
Kyle to win.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:44:04 PM): This what we mean by smearing. They see
everything. They go exactly what they wanted.
the_lady_coral (9:44:31 PM): This was shown to me by Nina earlier
lady_nessa_hoa (9:44:44 PM): ): I put your ass in a position of power
and you fucking embarass ME and the HOA. Your lucky i dont bleed you
for this. If i EVER catch you around the vamp community again. You
will be taken down. I cant belive you would betray my trust like
this. By the way when i get paid im sending you back that $785 you
loaned me. I dont want it from the likes of you.
the_lady_coral (9:45:03 PM): lady_nessa_hoa (10:10:25 PM):
l0rd_d1v1d1an : I put your ass in a position of power and you fucking
embarass ME and the HOA. Your lucky i dont bleed you for this. If i
EVER catch you around the vamp community again. You will be taken
down. I cant belive you would betray my trust like this. By the way
when i get paid im sending you back that $785 you loaned me. I dont
want it from the likes of you. lady_nessa_hoa (10:17:04 PM):
lady_lilith_dreams : Give him a few days to cool off....do not talk
to any of the group again....they are drama causers....take
responsibility for your part in it, be honest, and say you are
sorry....in a few days, not now. Th
lady_nessa_hoa (9:48:37 PM): Lady Nessa and Amanda have been removed
from the HOA for breaking rules put in place by myself and our
members to protect people. She decided to break those rules. Now im
sure i will be slandered by Nessa and Amanda on the occult forums and
more. lady nessa has ALOT to learn about the community. If anyone is
still looking for guidance the HOA is still available here in vegas.
Contact me the founder of the house of annunaki at
lady_nessa_hoa (9:53:30 PM): That is bull shit!
lady_nessa_hoa (9:54:04 PM): He tells me one thing and then he turns
it around and makes me like the enemy. I am not gonna deal with this
anymore.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:54:23 PM): No Fuck this
lady_nessa_hoa (9:54:55 PM): NOOOOOOO
lady_nessa_hoa (9:55:13 PM): Pist Off! that is the understanment
lady_nessa_hoa (9:55:42 PM): All I have tried to do is love each
other. He has showen me that he is NOT love. He is Hattrate and anger.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:56:26 PM): Well I am not you.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:57:06 PM): He NOT listening. He doesnt care....
Yahoo! Messenger (9:57:23 PM): anglss81@s... has joined the
conference.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:57:32 PM): Hey Angel...
anglss81@s... (9:57:33 PM): lol
littlewitch77 (9:57:49 PM): i lost
lady_nessa_hoa (9:58:34 PM): Look I am calm...I am just not stupied
the_lady_coral (9:58:36 PM): no one has had a chance to calm down and
think about what just happened
anglss81@s... (9:58:42 PM): what happen
lady_nessa_hoa (9:59:14 PM): Just copy and past the convo.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:59:34 PM): I am NOT gonna do nothing.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:59:42 PM): He smeared my name.
lady_nessa_hoa (9:59:59 PM): OK...who is the adult about this.
anglss81@s... (10:00:04 PM):
anglss81@s... (10:00:59 PM): who did this
anglss81@s... (10:01:12 PM): shit
anglss81@s... (10:06:45 PM): really this is an act of war
anglss81@s... (10:08:16 PM): i am
anglss81@s... (10:08:22 PM): i cant at the moment
anglss81@s... (10:08:28 PM): but i will type it
anglss81@s... (10:08:36 PM): right
anglss81@s... (10:08:41 PM): ok
anglss81@s... (10:08:54 PM): first off he dont have the
right to do that
anglss81@s... (10:09:12 PM): when he said that he was going
to sclice
anglss81@s... (10:09:17 PM): your throat
anglss81@s... (10:09:23 PM): and drink your blood
anglss81@s... (10:09:34 PM): thats what is an act of war
anglss81@s... (10:10:22 PM): who
lady_nessa_hoa (10:13:38 PM): l0rd_d1v1d1an : You deleted my fucking
post
lady_nessa_hoa (10:14:05 PM): l0rd_d1v1d1an : You need to post that
your no loger a representative of the HOA l0rd_d1v1d1an : Cause if
you dont ill nail your ass to the cross
the_lady_coral (10:15:19 PM): http://vampires.meetup.com/63/
the_lady_coral (10:16:30 PM): http://vampires.meetup.com/613/
anglss81@s... (10:22:28 PM): threats
anglss81@s... (10:23:00 PM): but threats
lady_lilith_dreams (10:23:53 PM): Nothing can be done until everyone
calms down
anglss81@s... (10:24:08 PM): Angels sarpens sword and
gitting ready battle
lady_lilith_dreams (10:24:36 PM): I think we need to discuss
solidarity with Dividian
lady_lilith_dreams (10:24:58 PM): it is a part of the Compendium
anglss81@s... (10:25:06 PM): umm really he need to git off
his high hourse
anglss81@s... (10:25:10 PM): horse
anglss81@s... (10:25:23 PM): np
anglss81@s... (10:25:33 PM): and git down to earth
anglss81@s... (10:25:48 PM): i could do the same damn thing
he is doing
anglss81@s... (10:26:08 PM): but i dont
lady_lilith_dreams (10:26:10 PM): We need to discuss the Compendioum
with all the Heads of Houses
anglss81@s... (10:26:14 PM): becuase one its not right
anglss81@s... (10:26:26 PM): yes
anglss81@s... (10:26:30 PM): we do
anglss81@s... (10:26:36 PM): coral
anglss81@s... (10:26:41 PM): right now
lady_lilith_dreams (10:26:41 PM): there has been many instances of
failing to follow the compendium
anglss81@s... (10:27:06 PM): grr
anglss81@s... (10:27:16 PM): ROAR
anglss81@s... (10:29:20 PM): lol
anglss81@s... (10:29:27 PM): u got that right
anglss81@s... (10:29:43 PM): grrr
lady_nessa_hoa (10:29:59 PM): I am not sending good vibs
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:01 PM): LOL
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:05 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:09 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:12 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:15 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:20 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:28 PM): LOL...hehehe Nessa
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:35 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:39 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:44 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:48 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:30:55 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:31:02 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:31:07 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:31:16 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:31:22 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:31:37 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:31:44 PM):
lady_lilith_dreams (10:31:52 PM): Orgy
anglss81@s... (10:31:54 PM): im not yet
lady_nessa_hoa (10:31:56 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:05 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:14 PM): Eat my taco
lady_lilith_dreams (10:32:16 PM): Target practice
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:17 PM): Pink taco
littlewitch77 (10:32:19 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:26 PM): lol
anglss81@s... (10:32:35 PM): coral im not only going to kill
u
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:37 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:41 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:49 PM): I need the pink taco
lady_nessa_hoa (10:32:55 PM): "slirp"
anglss81@s... (10:32:56 PM): u would love it way to much
lady_nessa_hoa (10:33:03 PM): I love it baby
lady_lilith_dreams (10:33:08 PM): a new sex toy?
lady_nessa_hoa (10:33:11 PM): Everyone is laughing
lady_nessa_hoa (10:33:21 PM): I got four new sex toys
lady_nessa_hoa (10:33:30 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:33:38 PM): I love you long time
lady_lilith_dreams (10:33:49 PM): long???
lady_nessa_hoa (10:33:49 PM): Five dollare sucky sucky
anglss81@s... (10:33:59 PM): ok while u 4
anglss81@s... (10:34:05 PM): have an orgy
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:13 PM): I am
littlewitch77 (10:34:18 PM): no no
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:20 PM): I have 5 people in my room
anglss81@s... (10:34:20 PM): i will take care of this problem
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:24 PM): I love pink taco
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:27 PM): HEHEHEHE
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:32 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:38 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:47 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:34:53 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:35:03 PM): BIG BALLLS
lady_nessa_hoa (10:35:22 PM): OHO
lady_nessa_hoa (10:35:30 PM): I like pink tacos
lady_nessa_hoa (10:35:40 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:35:46 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:35:54 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:35:59 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:36:05 PM): see my cokc
lady_nessa_hoa (10:36:11 PM): see my cock
lady_nessa_hoa (10:36:16 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:36:31 PM): see my cock grow.....
lady_nessa_hoa (10:36:50 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:36:57 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:36:59 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:37:02 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:37:11 PM): HEHEHHEE
lady_nessa_hoa (10:37:14 PM): Lilith
lady_nessa_hoa (10:37:19 PM): why are you so quiet
lady_nessa_hoa (10:38:10 PM): I am crazy shit
lady_nessa_hoa (10:38:17 PM): SHHHHHHHHHHHHHITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
lady_nessa_hoa (10:38:32 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:38:38 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:38:45 PM):
littlewitch77 (10:38:50 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:38:59 PM): Oh I love that one
lady_nessa_hoa (10:39:06 PM): eat pink taco
lady_nessa_hoa (10:39:20 PM): Ok eat brown tacos
lady_nessa_hoa (10:39:31 PM): Eat black tacos
lady_nessa_hoa (10:39:40 PM): Liltih is talking to LD
lady_nessa_hoa (10:39:45 PM): I feel it
lady_nessa_hoa (10:39:52 PM): "Slirp"
anglss81@s... (10:41:07 PM): wtf
lady_nessa_hoa (10:41:19 PM): I need pink tacos
anglss81@s... (10:41:37 PM): im not yet
lady_nessa_hoa (10:41:56 PM): rolling my fucken ass all over the
ground
lady_nessa_hoa (10:42:53 PM): Are ya gonna do it Angel
lady_nessa_hoa (10:42:58 PM): ???????????????
littlewitch77 (10:43:06 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:43:28 PM): Hey Littld witch come and join me and
angel
littlewitch77 (10:43:57 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:45:53 PM): LOL
littlewitch77 (10:46:48 PM):
littlewitch77 (10:47:09 PM):
littlewitch77 (10:47:26 PM): do a reading from afriend
lady_nessa_hoa (10:47:29 PM): My booooobs are hurting
littlewitch77 (10:47:43 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:47:43 PM): What Nope
lady_nessa_hoa (10:47:50 PM): He is a queen.
lady_nessa_hoa (10:47:57 PM): UNDERSTAND???????????
lady_nessa_hoa (10:48:05 PM): QUEEEEEN
lady_nessa_hoa (10:48:09 PM): for MEN
lady_nessa_hoa (10:48:15 PM): He A Lover for MEN
littlewitch77 (10:48:27 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:48:28 PM): Her makes alexander look good...
lady_nessa_hoa (10:48:29 PM): Yes
lady_nessa_hoa (10:48:35 PM): yes
lady_nessa_hoa (10:48:43 PM): He is my flaming beauty
anglss81@s... (10:49:17 PM):
littlewitch77 (10:49:30 PM):
littlewitch77 (10:49:38 PM): i love u angel
anglss81@s... (10:51:00 PM): cult
lady_nessa_hoa (10:51:07 PM): thegirlcharr : A poem for a pretty lady
who smells nice so that perhaps she can smile. (Not mine, it's by
Byron) thegirlcharr : SHE walks in beauty, like the night Of
cloudless climes and starry skies; And all that 's best of dark and
bright Meet in her aspect and her eyes: Thus mellow'd to that tender
light
anglss81@s... (10:51:19 PM): haha
anglss81@s... (10:51:22 PM): o boy
lady_nessa_hoa (10:51:25 PM): Which heaven to gaudy day denies. One
shade the more, one ray the less, Had half impair'd the nameless
grace Which waves in every raven tress, Or softly lightens o'er her
face; Where thoughts serenely sweet express How pure, how dear their
dwelling-place. And on that cheek, and o'er that brow, So soft, so
calm, yet eloquent, The smiles that win, the tints that glow, But
tell of days in goodness spent, A mind at peace with all below, A
heart whose love is innocent!
anglss81@s... (10:51:42 PM): no questions asked there dead
lady_nessa_hoa (10:52:04 PM): I guess Dividian doesnt know me then
right?
lady_nessa_hoa (10:52:19 PM): thegirlcharr : Granted, you're a blonde
lady, not a raven-haired one, but, yeah. *hugs for when you need to
find them*
anglss81@s... (10:52:38 PM): wtf
the_lady_coral (10:53:05 PM): lol
lady_nessa_hoa (10:53:55 PM): What the butt fuck
lady_nessa_hoa (10:54:29 PM): Does he know this.
lady_nessa_hoa (10:54:48 PM): My tits are hard
the_lady_coral (10:54:52 PM): LOL
littlewitch77 (10:54:57 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:55:01 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:55:13 PM): bla bla bla
littlewitch77 (10:55:23 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:55:49 PM): I just farted
littlewitch77 (10:56:11 PM):
littlewitch77 (10:56:28 PM):
littlewitch77 (10:56:43 PM):
lady_nessa_hoa (10:57:13 PM): I just farted
lady_nessa_hoa (10:57:16 PM): again
lady_nessa_hoa (10:57:22 PM): and again
lady_nessa_hoa (10:58:14 PM): As green clouds appear around us
lady_nessa_hoa (10:58:42 PM): I am very HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTt
littlewitch77 (11:00:21 PM): brb
lady_nessa_hoa (11:01:05 PM): Where is lady Lilith
the_lady_coral (11:03:03 PM): luv ya too Nina
lady_nessa_hoa (11:03:18 PM): bla bla bla
lady_nessa_hoa (11:03:59 PM): Yes
lady_nessa_hoa (11:04:00 PM): she did
lady_nessa_hoa (11:04:05 PM): she did
the_lady_coral (11:04:09 PM): ROFLMFAO
lady_nessa_hoa (11:04:12 PM): I heard it with my ears
littlewitch77 (11:09:32 PM): is where any small kids at your house?
lady_nessa_hoa (11:09:52 PM): We have small kids in our house
anglss81@s... (11:13:21 PM): yes
anglss81@s... (11:13:23 PM): i am
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lady_nessa_hoa (11:18:13 PM): No you didnt
lady_nessa_hoa (11:18:33 PM): No you didnt
lady_nessa_hoa (11:18:41 PM): No, just Kyle
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:02 PM): Dividian you didnt tell me
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:08 PM): You assumed
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:12 PM): No you didnt
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:17 PM): No you didnt
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:21 PM): What ever
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:39 PM): I had 5 people in my house that heard
you on the speaker phone
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:47 PM): They said you didnt
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:48 PM): Yes
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:51 PM): you did
lady_nessa_hoa (11:19:55 PM): You where
lady_nessa_hoa (11:20:00 PM): I dont care
lady_nessa_hoa (11:20:17 PM): You cant stop anyone.
lady_nessa_hoa (11:21:01 PM): You wrote it.
lady_nessa_hoa (11:21:05 PM): I have copies
lady_nessa_hoa (11:21:29 PM): That was not me
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the_lady_coral (11:29:00 PM): This is fucked up
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conference.
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conference.
The Conference I started after he did the countdown (which is what
Coral said this is fucked up about)1-7-05 to 1-8-05
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lady_lilith_dreams (11:30:20 PM): yes it is
the_lady_coral (11:30:21 PM): put on ears please
lady_lilith_dreams (11:30:29 PM): way too far
lady_lilith_dreams (11:31:01 PM): we needed the chance to talk....
anglss81@s... (11:31:12 PM): ok do it again
lady_lilith_dreams (11:31:28 PM): but we are still here
anglss81@s... (11:31:31 PM): i
lady_lilith_dreams (11:31:36 PM): we are still in a chat
lady_nessa_hoa (11:31:37 PM): I
the_lady_coral (11:31:39 PM): Lord_Dividian: Im warning you and
lillth. You go into another conference with her and i fond out about
it, your gone. im not going to deal with this. THIS IS WHAT NESSA
DOES.
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littlewitch77 (11:33:43 PM): i leaving it
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anglss81@s... (11:35:35 PM): who is this
diaboluslupus (11:35:48 PM): Me?
lady_lilith_dreams (11:35:50 PM): Hi brad
diaboluslupus (11:36:01 PM): No mic
diaboluslupus (11:36:27 PM): Hiya
diaboluslupus (11:36:35 PM):
littlewitch77 (11:36:56 PM): me/
diaboluslupus (11:38:09 PM): in fact on the HOA web site there its a
link to Bonewits cult evaluation check-list.. #2 External Control:
Amount of external political and social influence desired or
obtained; emphasis on directing members' external political and
social behavior.
diaboluslupus (11:38:47 PM): and #12 Isolation: Amount of effort to
keep members from communicating with non-members, including family,
friends and lovers.
anglss81@s... (11:39:17 PM): nope she did not
anglss81@s... (11:39:36 PM): it distoryed it self
anglss81@s... (11:40:06 PM): nope
diaboluslupus (11:44:37 PM): True.. The right to freely associate is
a basic human right.
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anglss81@s... (11:47:12 PM): well
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:47:17 PM): /follow lady_lillth_dreams
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:47:32 PM):
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:47:36 PM): Good luck avoiding me now
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:47:48 PM): Next is a voice trace on her IP
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:47:49 PM):
anglss81@s... (11:47:54 PM): lol
anglss81@s... (11:48:05 PM): ok thats not right
littlewitch77 (11:48:15 PM): this is bull shit grow up !!!!
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:48:15 PM): all is fair in love and war
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:48:22 PM): pagan ... you came to ME
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:48:27 PM): Your falling for her game
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:48:32 PM): you dont know the entire story
anglss81@s... (11:48:32 PM): war u say
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:48:49 PM): If you had any idea of what nessa did
you wouldnt be here right now
anglss81@s... (11:49:05 PM): tell us
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:49:12 PM): Did she tell you shes got a husband and
was trying to fuck me at the same time.
anglss81@s... (11:49:34 PM): huh?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:49:47 PM): Did she tell you she was flirting with a
21 year old boy
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:49:56 PM): and shes old enought to be his mom
lady_nessa_hoa (11:50:01 PM): What?
littlewitch77 (11:50:06 PM): what about samll kids that what to
learn? why tell bull shit kids games kill what is the truth. we all
have the right to get two side s of the story. that is fair !!!
lady_nessa_hoa (11:50:09 PM): OK...whatever
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:50:20 PM): Yea but shes lieing to you pagan
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:50:23 PM): Dont you see it
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:50:34 PM): She told you i wanted to drink her
blood. IM A FUCKING PSY U
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:50:44 PM): that in itself should have shown you it
was bullshit
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:51:30 PM): The fact that i asked her 3 times to
avoid kyle and she didnt
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:51:37 PM): mabe i should invite kyle in here
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:51:42 PM): Let him tell you
anglss81@s... (11:51:57 PM): do u have proff on all this
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:52:06 PM): You want proof
anglss81@s... (11:52:11 PM): yes
anglss81@s... (11:52:16 PM): show us all
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:52:19 PM): Let me get kyle in here
lady_nessa_hoa (11:52:24 PM): l0rd_d1v1d1an (7:47:47 PM): I put your
ass in a position of power and you fucking embarass ME and the HOA.
Your lucky i dont bleed you for this. If i EVER catch you around the
vamp community again. You will be taken down. I cant belive you would
betray my trust like this. By the way when i get paid im sending you
back that $785 you loaned me. I dont want it from the likes of you.
anglss81@s... (11:53:21 PM): hmm
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the_lady_coral (11:53:31 PM): ?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:53:31 PM): Like it says
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:53:47 PM): and i QUOTE "Your lucky i dont bleed you
for this. If i EVER catch you around the vamp community again. You
will be taken down"
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:53:58 PM): Does that say im going to drink her
blood ?
anglss81@s... (11:54:04 PM): no drain her
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:54:07 PM): Ahhhh
lady_nessa_hoa (11:54:09 PM): That is really a good leader DIV
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:54:10 PM): thats you angels
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:54:17 PM): thanks*
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:54:25 PM): Does it say im going to kill her ?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:54:42 PM): Does it ?
anglss81@s... (11:54:44 PM): no but it could be taken both
ways
anglss81@s... (11:55:05 PM): taken down could mean u slander
her name
lady_nessa_hoa (11:55:08 PM): l0rd_d1v1d1an : You deleted my fucking
post l0rd_d1v1d1an : You need to post that your no loger a
representative of the HOA l0rd_d1v1d1an : Cause if you dont ill nail
your ass to the cross
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:55:13 PM): Well her misconception is not my
problem ... OMG there it is again ... misconception on ninas part ...
amazing how we keep comming back to the same thing
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:55:23 PM): Does that say i will kill her ?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:55:35 PM): And i quote "l0rd_d1v1d1an : You deleted
my fucking post l0rd_d1v1d1an : You need to post that your no loger a
representative of the HOA l0rd_d1v1d1an : Cause if you dont ill nail
your ass to the cross"
the_lady_coral (11:55:42 PM): i'm going to end up with a migrane in
the morning over this i just feel it
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:55:43 PM): Does that say ill kill her ?
lady_nessa_hoa (11:55:45 PM): No one is doing anything to you but
your self
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:55:56 PM): Does that say im going to drink her
blood ?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:56:26 PM): Nope sure doesnt look like it to me
anglss81@s... (11:56:28 PM): nail to the cross i would have
laughed by to a female yes it is a death threat
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:56:42 PM): Looks like nina is having another
misconception day
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:57:08 PM): Amazing how we keep comming back to the
fact that she misunderstands everything
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:57:38 PM): And how noone comments in the room on it
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:57:44 PM): they all have to do it in pivate
lady_nessa_hoa (11:57:50 PM): Look Dividian I am not the one that is
making this chats. I was asked in.
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:57:50 PM): what a bunch of babies
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:57:56 PM): I know
the_lady_coral (11:57:57 PM): I aint PMing you on it
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:58:07 PM): and the ones that asked you to come in
can kiss off
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:58:26 PM): they are no longer representatives of MY
<<<<<< LOOK AT THAT WORD .... MY FUCKING HOUSE
lady_nessa_hoa (11:58:29 PM): No I will not give up that person.
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:58:56 PM): nina .. your a joke
anglss81@s... (11:59:06 PM): ok bring kyle in
anglss81@s... (11:59:12 PM): lets see what he has to say
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:59:26 PM): im going to get all the ogs together
tonight and tomorrow from kyle, temujin and wendy and post them all
on the HOA website
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:59:36 PM): i think he fell asleep
l0rd_d1v1d1an (11:59:42 PM): i keep Pming him but theres no answer
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:00:29 AM): Did you guys know i made an announcement
on her LV meetup that shes not a member of the HOA anymore and she
delete it cause she didnt want people to know i kicked her out
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:00:45 AM): she was planning on saying she was still
a member and recruiting people
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:00:54 AM): Ive never had these problems with any
other member
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:00:58 AM): so i know its not me
the_lady_coral (12:01:22 AM): What exactly is the problem?
lady_nessa_hoa (12:02:48 AM): LD be sure your sins will find you out.
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thegirlcharr (12:04:55 AM): <---will be making coffee, so any delays
in response here are henceforth understood for the next five minutes
the_lady_coral (12:05:03 AM): I keep hearing he said she said
bullshit about Kyle and Wendy were fucking around blah blah and that
Wendy, Kyle, and Temojin/Moridin were starting shit. etc
thegirlcharr (12:05:09 AM): No mic, damn.
anglss81@s... (12:05:22 AM): did nessa contact u
anglss81@s... (12:05:25 AM): today
lady_nessa_hoa (12:05:27 AM): They have no Mic
anglss81@s... (12:05:29 AM): yes are no
moordin (12:05:37 AM): Me? yes.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:05:59 AM): He is asking what was asked?
lady_nessa_hoa (12:06:09 AM): Did I call you?
moordin (12:06:37 AM): if I may....offer what happened from my point
of view?
the_lady_coral (12:06:42 AM): I didn't see him answer
lady_nessa_hoa (12:07:10 AM): Yes go Moordin
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:07:16 AM): Moordin
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:07:29 AM): it makes no difference what you think
your point is of the situation
the_lady_coral (12:07:41 AM): I can't see Moordin type...
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:07:43 AM): the pint was i asked her not to contact
you about the subject and she did
lady_nessa_hoa (12:07:50 AM): Ask it.
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:07:59 AM): She freely admints to contacting you
after i told her not to
moordin (12:08:18 AM): nope, I just wanted to set the record straight
from my end, I don't care who said what I just want it clear
lady_nessa_hoa (12:08:24 AM): Moordin. was Amanda at your house two
days ago?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:08:25 AM): So why would i want soneon around that
going to do something i asked them not to
lady_nessa_hoa (12:08:34 AM): You didnt\
moordin (12:08:47 AM): Amanda at my place 2 days ago? NO......she was
here on Christmas
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:08:51 AM): Mooordin when was the last time amanda
was at your house
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:09:04 AM): I thought you told me it was 2 nights
ago after the meet up ?
moordin (12:09:17 AM): no. we never said that
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:09:19 AM): you all have to type
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:09:32 AM): I thought you did ... ok MY BAD ... see
i can admit when imwrong anyway
moordin (12:09:42 AM): Amanda was not here 2 days ago.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:09:46 AM): Okay, so YOU can be wrong?
lady_nessa_hoa (12:09:54 AM): And even if Im wrong, im out? This is Z
btw
the_lady_coral (12:09:55 AM): I can't see Moordin type yall so
Moordin if you're typing I can't see it.
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:03 AM): Z
lady_nessa_hoa (12:10:05 AM): Im sorry, if youre allowed to be
impoerfect and no one else can..
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:09 AM): why are you getting involved
lady_nessa_hoa (12:10:12 AM): What kind of place is this to be?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:18 AM): Ok you know what fuckit
moordin (12:10:22 AM): can you see it now?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:22 AM): There is no mreo HOA
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:29 AM): im shutting it down
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:30 AM): see ya
the_lady_coral (12:10:34 AM): what?
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:37 AM): Go be assholes someplace else
l0rd_d1v1d1an (12:10:43 AM): I DONT NEED THE FUCKING DRAMA
Yahoo! Messenger (12:10:45 AM): l0rd_d1v1d1an has left the conference.
the_lady_coral (12:10:56 AM): damn
thegirlcharr (12:10:59 AM): The fuck? I go for coffee and mud's all
ready flinging? o.O
moordin (12:11:14 AM): ahem.......as a person not in HOA, can I make
a statement?
moordin (12:11:28 AM): no I am not.
anglss81@s... (12:11:31 AM): yes moordin
lady_lilith_dreams (12:11:52 AM): BTW, a member I know said if Div
ever shut down the HOA he wanted to take over it
lady_nessa_hoa (12:11:58 AM): l0rd_d1v1d1an : I am closing down the
HOA. To everyone looking for guidance i am sorry. Theres too much
drama being caused by Lady Nessa. Thank her for ruining your
education. Good luck to you all. Dividian
lady_nessa_hoa (12:12:31 AM): Lilith I want to sign under you.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:12:38 AM): I want to be in your group.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:12:57 AM): Fyre. I am sorry you have to see this.
thegirlcharr (12:14:03 AM): *curls up and waits for a chance to jump
in when it's clear* Don't be sorry, Pretty Smelling Lady. I can be
patient and wait my turn. What I have to say will wait until
everyone's done with their cries of anguish so their ears won't be
ringing, anyway.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:14:18 AM): l0rd_d1v1d1an : You have been iggied
diaboluslupus (12:14:21 AM): you know if this is an educational
group, then all that should matter is the educational value of what
peope contribute. People's external personal behavior is generally
non-relivent
moordin (12:14:29 AM): All I wanted to say was that from what I could
tell, the vast amount of misquotes, comments out of context, and near
as I can tell, Div himself was responsible for much of the conflict.
I withdrew and stopped all contact at one point because I caught him
in several lies. Nina came to me with a legitimate question today. I
honored Div's request and informed him nothing more or less...for the
record, Nina was in the RIGHT by asking someone outside the HOA what
she did.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:14:58 AM): I want to join your house.
anglss81@s... (12:14:58 AM): i do
lady_nessa_hoa (12:15:03 AM): Angel does
lady_nessa_hoa (12:15:29 AM): What about otherkin? ^^ <-- Z
lady_nessa_hoa (12:15:43 AM): moordin: All I wanted to say was that
from what I could tell, the vast amount of misquotes, comments out of
context, and near as I can tell, Div himself was responsible for much
of the conflict. I withdrew and stopped all contact at one point
because I caught him in several lies. Nina came to me with a
legitimate question today. I honored Div's request and informed him
nothing more or less...for the record, Nina was in the RIGHT by
asking someone outside the HOA what she did.
moordin (12:16:43 AM): who talked to me?
moordin (12:17:09 AM): bit confused here actually about that last part
anglss81@s... (12:17:17 AM): lol i can diesign
anglss81@s... (12:17:19 AM): them
anglss81@s... (12:17:22 AM): design
littlewitch77 (12:17:41 AM): i have a yahoo group i make you all can
come
anglss81@s... (12:17:50 AM): well everone
anglss81@s... (12:18:10 AM): not your falut
anglss81@s... (12:18:14 AM): fault
moordin (12:18:40 AM): As did I, she was attacked without just cause
imo, I had to say something...I want to quote a piece of the convo I
had with Div....
anglss81@s... (12:18:50 AM): he was tracking
anglss81@s... (12:19:12 AM): i can see it
moordin (12:19:15 AM): lord_vampire_dividian (8:09:53 PM): no its ok
lord_vampire_dividian (8:09:58 PM): theres no reason
lord_vampire_dividian (8:10:02 PM): shes dead to me
lord_vampire_dividian (8:10:11 PM): betrayed my trust moordin
(8:10:55 PM): You know I can not leave her unprotected...my oaths to
the universe prevent it.
the_lady_coral (12:19:28 AM): reinvite me in here
Yahoo! Messenger (12:19:30 AM): the_lady_coral has left the
conference.
moordin (12:19:47 AM): and that is why I am here now, to set the
record straight and defend someone that was unjustly attacked in this
Yahoo! Messenger (12:19:59 AM): the_lady_coral has joined the
conference.
the_lady_coral (12:20:09 AM): moordin type something please
diaboluslupus (12:20:09 AM): well I'm gonna call it a night. Its been
surreal.
littlewitch77 (12:20:25 AM): thehouseofthevampyrepagans is the name
of my group
the_lady_coral (12:20:26 AM): so i can see if i can tell if i can
read what you're typing
moordin (12:20:32 AM): I will freely give anyone the log of the convo
between Div and me earlier today.
Yahoo! Messenger (12:20:34 AM): diaboluslupus has left the conference.
littlewitch77 (12:20:41 AM): ok
moordin (12:20:47 AM): who what links?
anglss81@s... (12:20:49 AM): plz give me
anglss81@s... (12:20:56 AM): the convo
the_lady_coral (12:20:57 AM): I can't see moordin type again blah
lady_lilith_dreams (12:21:09 AM): kieoh@y...
moordin (12:21:11 AM): how about I just paste it here, it's not that
long
moordin (12:21:26 AM): not a problem
moordin (12:21:34 AM): do you have a red background?
lady_nessa_hoa (12:22:39 AM): To all members. I am closing down the
HOA. To everyone looking for guidance i am sorry. Theres too much
drama being caused by members of the community. There is tension
amoung the members and i do not have time to deal with it. i tried to
do something here that was for everyone. But it seems a few rotten
apples always have to spoil the bunch. From here where you go is up
to you. Here is a link where you can furthur your education.
www.sanguinarious.org Sanguinarious is the only site i trust 100% to
keep the communtiy safe. I want to thank you all for trusting in the
HOA. unfortunately i cannot continue its wearing on my health and my
personal life way to heavily. I havent slept for weeks and im
entermely sick. To all my family here in the HOA know i love you all
ver
anglss81@s... (12:23:13 AM): hahahaha
moordin (12:23:26 AM): let me know when you are ready for me to post
the convo
lady_nessa_hoa (12:23:57 AM): <---- Amanda
lady_nessa_hoa (12:24:02 AM): yes we are ready to see it
moordin (12:24:10 AM): moordin (5:21:11 PM): alas, I was not able to
speak to you before it happened, like I saw in my vision. One of
yours, Nina, came to me with very serious questions. I tried to warn
you this would happen, but now it has. She inquired about Gargoyles.
She wants the deepest knowledge about them. I tried to expain to her
that there are several levels and that I couldn't realy help her past
a certain point without various things happening. I told her there
might be a solution but I had to talk to you first. My number is 702-
321-7233 please call me asap so we can talk.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:24:18 AM): And by the way thanks Angel it was nice
of you to say that
moordin (12:24:25 AM): moordin (5:21:21 PM): or give me a number so I
can call you. moordin (8:04:48 PM): ouch....shall we talk?
lord_vampire_dividian (8:04:57 PM): no its cool lord_vampire_dividian
(8:05:02 PM): shes gone lord_vampire_dividian (8:05:11 PM): her
fucking problem not mine moordin (8:05:32 PM): D, that was not what I
wanted and to be honest, not sure what happened. was it because she
talked to me about that today?
lady_nessa_hoa (12:25:09 AM): l0rd_d1v1d1an : I hope your fucking
happy .. Rot in hell bitch
moordin (12:25:54 AM): lord_vampire_dividian (8:06:12 PM): yes
lord_vampire_dividian (8:06:40 PM): she was told not to contact you
if she had questions about anything but magick lord_vampire_dividian
(8:06:44 PM): and she broke the rule lord_vampire_dividian (8:06:46
PM): shes gone lord_vampire_dividian (8:06:49 PM): plain and simple
lord_vampire_dividian (8:06:55 PM): i dont put up with bullshit
lord_vampire_dividian (8:07:06 PM): i been deling with nothing but
problems with her from day 1 lord_vampire_dividian (8:07:14 PM): shes
very sick and confused
moordin (12:26:09 AM): not that was three hours later and I never
talked to him on the phone
moordin (12:26:34 AM): lord_vampire_dividian (8:07:23 PM): FUCK HER
let her wallow in her own stupidity moordin (8:07:25 PM): hmmm, well,
her subject tech. was magickal in nature. but it is your call.
lord_vampire_dividian (8:07:30 PM): no lord_vampire_dividian (8:07:39
PM): it was about gargoyles lord_vampire_dividian (8:07:43 PM):
otherkin lord_vampire_dividian (8:07:50 PM): thats what it was about
moordin (8:07:53 PM): Which are one of the 7 most magickal things
around. lord_vampire_dividian (8:08:20 PM): thats splitting hairs
lord_vampire_dividian (8:08:22 PM): lol lord_vampire_dividian
(8:08:34 PM): she knows better
moordin (12:27:32 AM): moordin (8:09:34 PM): perhaps. I do not wish
to be the reason she was removed. Our conversation was very short,
would you like to see it? lord_vampire_dividian (8:09:53 PM): no its
ok lord_vampire_dividian (8:09:58 PM): theres no reason
lord_vampire_dividian (8:10:02 PM): shes dead to me
lord_vampire_dividian (8:10:11 PM): betrayed my trust moordin
(8:10:55 PM): You know I can not leave her unprotected...my oaths to
the universe prevent it. lord_vampire_dividian (8:11:12 PM): then you
deal with her lord_vampire_dividian (8:11:17 PM): i could care less
lady_nessa_hoa (12:27:35 AM): how petty is that?
Yahoo! Messenger (12:27:55 AM): kylevmp has joined the conference.
kylevmp (12:28:01 AM): Hello
moordin (12:28:30 AM): moordin (8:12:07 PM): D...please do not let
this come between us. I had actually, well, both Fyre and I had
wanted to talk to you about a mutual aspect. (Fyre wanted to talk to
you in depth about it) lord_vampire_dividian (8:14:25 PM): this has
nothing to do with us lord_vampire_dividian (8:14:42 PM): So your
calling her huh lord_vampire_dividian (8:14:58 PM): your better off
leaving her to her own devices moordin (8:14:58 PM): yes, but not for
me. lord_vampire_dividian (8:15:06 PM): Dont call her for me
lord_vampire_dividian (8:15:43 PM): She could swuck my cock 60 times
in front of the pope and ill never forgive what she did. She betrayed
everything that we had. Shes dead to me
moordin (12:29:15 AM): moordin (8:16:10 PM): I wasn't. I was calling
her on Fyre's behalf (fyre is at work atm). Fyre wanted her to know
that if she needed a female ear. nothing more or less.
lord_vampire_dividian (8:16:33 PM): She broke a rule put inplace to
try and calm things down, considering amanda said she still wanted to
kill you. I told her and amanda not to contact you, and she did
moordin (8:18:04 PM): Amanda was already dealt with. The moment she
betrayed our trust within 12 hours had a binding spell put on her
(no, we did not do it, another did that was aware of the situation).
I do not want any of this to come between us and what could in fact
become a very nice mutual alliance of sorts.
moordin (12:30:35 AM): moordin (8:18:22 PM): You dealt with her the
only way you could. I prolly would have done the same in your place.
lord_vampire_dividian (8:19:17 PM): What type of alliance are you
talking about. Im very particular about what i attach my name too.
and magick is something i tend to avoid for the simple fact that
theres more negative of it then positive uses. moordin (8:22:07 PM):
Fyre has the particulars, but I believe it is mostly...we would
handle any magickal questions your people would have and offer basic
protections since Kin are often suseptable to various magkics, while
you in return would handle most of the Kin knowledge that wasn't deep
secrets (we would direct those wanting that info to you)
moordin (12:30:58 AM): lord_vampire_dividian (8:22:41 PM): I dunno,
our belief system isnt the same lord_vampire_dividian (8:22:59 PM): i
tent to not teach things like this cause its more based in
personal "BELIEF" almost like a religion moordin (8:23:03 PM): they
dont have to be. As I said, Fyre has the particulars moordin (8:24:07
PM): no one can deny that magick is. It is a matter of moving energy.
lord_vampire_dividian (8:25:20 PM): agreed, but its what you do with
that energy thats the difference lord_vampire_dividian (8:25:43 PM):
When it comes to vampires we need not use magick to move energy, we
are one with it born to the ability to use it. We need not learn it
lord_vampire_dividian (8:25:51 PM): just learn to use it for good
moordin (12:31:20 AM): moordin (8:25:58 PM): I do what I must. Magick
is neither good nor evil, intention is and we are not bound by
societies concepts of that. lord_vampire_dividian (8:26:00 PM): WQe
dont cast and conjure lord_vampire_dividian (8:26:14 PM): But i am
bound to those concepts lord_vampire_dividian (8:26:23 PM): There is
good and evil in my community lord_vampire_dividian (8:26:46 PM): and
i must make sure all information given to those inquiring about it
have good intentions moordin (8:26:54 PM): hmmmm perhaps something
you could learn some of then, could help you. (shrugs) in any case,
Fyre wanted to talk to you about it. moordin (8:27:28 PM): oh we
wouldnt be passing anything on that wasn't in the basics. i.e. no
nsaty stuff. basic practices, terminology, more
moordin (12:32:03 AM): lord_vampire_dividian (8:29:52 PM): I dunno,
please dont take offence, but i dont see how we both gain frm this. I
see how you could gain more into your circle, but i dont see how it
benefits my members. I do have those that teach magick to my
community. We deal with topics like shielding, and energy transfer.
Those are the basics we teach. Techniques and Practices. Astral
travel. things of that nature moordin (8:31:02 PM): I was not aware
of that. Very well, I will withdraw it as you have it covered. Let us
instead be merely friends. moordin (8:31:08 PM): I do have a question
though
moordin (12:32:31 AM): moordin (8:32:25 PM): Was it a correct thing
to do to command your people to not speak to someone, who may have
been their friend, on any topic other then magick? Seems to me that
would be denying anyone a basic right of free choice. Unless I have
misunderstood. lord_vampire_dividian (8:33:46 PM): No ... the
specifics were to avoid conversation with you and the vampiric
community. IE: Vampires, Lupines, Gargoyles, The Fae, Dragons...any
vampiric being moordin (8:34:09 PM): ahhh, then I did misunderstand,
my error. lord_vampire_dividian (8:35:28 PM): If she wanted to speak
with you about something like energy transfer or astral projection it
would have been fine
lady_lilith_dreams (12:32:44 AM): the internals of the site are still
up....get in there and save the info before he erases it
lady_lilith_dreams (12:32:46 AM):
http://guru.angryangelapparel.com/anu/html/modules.php?
name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=293&sid=8a8cb5a561386cb4c3e96d05f54d186d
moordin (12:33:25 AM): lord_vampire_dividian (8:35:36 PM): Those have
more of a magical aspect to them lord_vampire_dividian (8:35:53 PM):
But she contacted you specifically about where to get information on
goargoyles moordin (8:36:20 PM): Which are one of the five original
races and very magickal. lord_vampire_dividian (8:36:50 PM): Agreed,
but still, it was something she was asked not to contact you about
lord_vampire_dividian (8:37:07 PM): We deal with Gargoyles and how
they effect the vampire community lord_vampire_dividian (8:37:26 PM):
If i asked you your definition of a gargoyle it would be very
different from what we see a gargoyle as moordin (8:37:34 PM): yes I
know...that is one of the areas we have a vast difference of opinion.
lord_vampire_dividian (8:37:54 PM): A
moordin (12:33:43 AM): moordin (8:38:27 PM): largest one being that
one of my non-corporal friends is one and I have talked with him at
length and know the truth (which was not what I originally thought
btw, so even I was enlightened) lord_vampire_dividian (8:40:05 PM):
Well many have different opinions of what gargoyles are astrally,
Personally i believe they are VERy dangerous seeing as how they are
the only of the astral beings about to destory completely another
astrally moordin (8:41:11 PM): not true, but without deep knowledge,
no one would know that without 9th circle info though
lord_vampire_dividian (8:41:37 PM): Not true from your understanding
of the vampiric communtiy
moordin (12:34:00 AM): lord_vampire_dividian (8:42:01 PM): No other
vampiric being has that ability. There are other things outside the
communtiy witht he same ability. Just not witin it
lord_vampire_dividian (8:43:30 PM): They are very unstable beings and
can disguise themself as other types of kin. Its pretty scary
actually. I know quite a few moordin (8:55:14 PM): I think at this
point we will just agree to disagree and let it go at that and remain
neutral to one another, sound good? lord_vampire_dividian (8:56:33
PM): agreed moordin (8:57:04 PM): ok then, well I just heard Fyre
drive up and I know she has stuff to bring in, so going AFK for a few
min lord_vampire_dividian (8:57:14 PM): ok
moordin (12:34:12 AM): and that was the entire convo between Div and I
Yahoo! Messenger (12:34:54 AM): kylevmp has left the conference.
moordin (12:36:00 AM): now, does anyone have any questions for me?
anglss81@s... (12:36:09 AM): no moordin
lady_nessa_hoa (12:36:21 AM): Thanks Moordin.
moordin (12:36:27 AM): (nods)
lady_nessa_hoa (12:36:33 AM): Thanks for comming forward
anglss81@s... (12:36:35 AM): ty moordin
moordin (12:36:48 AM): As I said to all at the very beginning, you
will only get the truth from me.
anglss81@s... (12:36:57 AM): ty
anglss81@s... (12:37:16 AM): mind games
anglss81@s... (12:37:53 AM): death
lady_nessa_hoa (12:39:16 AM): I don't know if playing into his games
is the best solution..
thegirlcharr (12:39:35 AM): Whose games? Div's or Moor's?
moordin (12:39:37 AM): (raises his hand)
lady_nessa_hoa (12:39:41 AM): Kyle's
lady_nessa_hoa (12:40:15 AM): If we react to what he does, we're
doing what he wants.
moordin (12:40:48 AM): afk
thegirlcharr (12:41:08 AM): Actually, in regards to Kyle, I ask that,
for a fortnight, you give me a chance to help him. If he can't grow,
then I'll pour honey on him and send him at all of the vultures I
know are watching this.
littlewitch77 (12:43:27 AM): just go to Thehouseofthevampyrepagans ,
i have one
littlewitch77 (12:44:02 AM): yahoo group i started three mons
ago. !!!!!!!!
the_lady_coral (12:44:25 AM): go ahead angel
thegirlcharr (12:44:44 AM): No, no, go here!
http://magickal.meetup.com/323/
the_lady_coral (12:45:01 AM): I agree
thegirlcharr (12:45:03 AM): And whether or not you're interested,
please do say "oooh!" and "aaah!" over the picture that I made.
thegirlcharr (12:46:17 AM): With the Oooh's and Aah's? (Why do I feel
like I'm only getting half of the conversation? )
lady_nessa_hoa (12:46:32 AM): Thanks
lady_nessa_hoa (12:46:39 AM): I understand.
lady_nessa_hoa (12:47:24 AM): I AM DOWN
the_lady_coral (12:47:45 AM): I need to fix up my personal site too
lady_nessa_hoa (12:48:04 AM): Thanks
moordin (12:48:44 AM): I have something I have to admit to.....
lady_nessa_hoa (12:48:51 AM): Yes
moordin (12:49:03 AM): Thank you......
littlewitch77 (12:49:54 AM): well i here for u all , i still moving
to alaska so i'll be back soon.
the_lady_coral (12:49:59 AM): who?
littlewitch77 (12:50:14 AM): thank
littlewitch77 (12:50:17 AM): you
lady_nessa_hoa (12:50:36 AM): Yea..
lady_nessa_hoa (12:50:42 AM): Newly Awaken..
the_lady_coral (12:50:43 AM): o.O
the_lady_coral (12:50:47 AM):
moordin (12:50:52 AM): Some of you know I have very in depth
visions...I saw much of this coming some time back and waited for it
to fill....when the timing was right, I admit, I manipulated some of
this so that Div's true colors sooner then later, cause I didn't want
the red headed woman and the little girl, and the young man with the
black hair to be hurt. I ask your forgiveness for this act, but it
was necessary to help many of you not be hurt.
the_lady_coral (12:50:52 AM): <---?
lady_nessa_hoa (12:50:54 AM): "Bowing"
littlewitch77 (12:50:58 AM): can blue help???
the_lady_coral (12:51:02 AM): Hold up
littlewitch77 (12:51:04 AM): yes
moordin (12:51:35 AM): (thanks, done)
the_lady_coral (12:51:37 AM): yeah i know hun
lady_lilith_dreams (12:51:43 AM): Thanks, but no thanks.
the_lady_coral (12:52:10 AM): The usual info I get lol
the_lady_coral (12:52:33 AM): Yeah... I am the blunt one that would
get on that ass LOL
moordin (12:53:37 AM): yes
moordin (12:54:06 AM): I want to be the great grand poohbear of the
great world cupcake title.
lady_lilith_dreams (12:54:09 AM):
http://img123.exs.cx/img123/8261/AEONcomplete2.jpg
moordin (12:54:19 AM): sorry, just had to say something to break some
tension
lady_lilith_dreams (12:54:24 AM): this is a copyrighted image BTW
moordin (12:54:33 AM): not a problem
lady_nessa_hoa (12:55:22 AM): I am going to be working on the newly
awaken. I will get the web sight.
thegirlcharr (12:55:29 AM): Oh, pretty!
the_lady_coral (12:55:30 AM): ooooh I get it
moordin (12:56:00 AM): can I make a suggestion if that is how you
want to do it?
lady_lilith_dreams (12:56:09 AM): here is the description of the
symbols
lady_lilith_dreams (12:56:11 AM):
http://img123.exs.cx/img123/2148/AEONdescriptioncomplete2.jpg
thegirlcharr (12:57:20 AM): *grabs her soap box, starts dusting it
off* I know there will likely be a peanut gallery that I cannot hear
because my Y!M is stupid, but, I think it's about time for me to hop
on this thing...
moordin (12:58:08 AM): if you are going to do it that way......use
the Ancients Path of Kakta. They set up a counsil of 7. 1 for each of
the 5 original races, 1 for Magick, and 1 for Shadows.
the_lady_coral (12:58:20 AM): what i need are graphic programs and
shit to help out with website designs
littlewitch77 (12:59:03 AM): what about poetry????
littlewitch77 (12:59:25 AM): i do poetry
thegirlcharr (12:59:45 AM): *hops up on her soap box..clears her
throat..* I am NOT a slut! I'm just easy to love! And for the record,
it was not Moordin who was trying to get into anyone's pants! It was
ME!
moordin (1:00:01 AM): that's true.
littlewitch77 (1:00:03 AM): what r we going to be callled???
thegirlcharr (1:00:10 AM): So, now that I have everyone's
attention....
thegirlcharr (1:00:50 AM): I would like to have someone rehash,
please, in 200 words or less, the purpose of the new group, house,
whatever, that everyone is discussing in the voice chat that I cannot
hear.
littlewitch77 (1:01:50 AM): who is thegirlcharr???
thegirlcharr (1:02:17 AM): *bows* I am Sayyida Niawae, but you may
call me Fyre.
littlewitch77 (1:02:30 AM): ok
thegirlcharr (1:03:50 AM): All right, before y'all form your new
Council, do you even know what the purpose of it is to be?
anglss81@s... (1:04:00 AM): yes
moordin (1:04:14 AM): remember Fyre can't hear anything and I am only
hearing half of it, breaking up bad
thegirlcharr (1:04:20 AM): And what's that? (Deaf, remember? My Y!M
doesn't have the audio for this chat)
moordin (1:05:17 AM): (nods)
lady_nessa_hoa (1:05:58 AM): Moordin call me
lady_nessa_hoa (1:06:00 AM): at home
moordin (1:06:19 AM): roger
thegirlcharr (1:06:27 AM): *curls up and sighs* All right, I will
have my explaination tomorrow from Angel, but I would like to say
something first...
moordin (1:06:29 AM): I just have the one number though
anglss81@s... (1:06:42 AM): k
thegirlcharr (1:07:57 AM): Thank you, Pretty Lady.
lady_nessa_hoa (1:08:20 AM): Your welcome
moordin (1:08:47 AM): ummm there is another way...but I will need to
gather the documents together. It is a counsil but fully represented
if you are interested. will take me a couple days. It is a method
that provides all members of all houses etc a voice.
moordin (1:09:07 AM): I will freely give it to you to use how you wish
anglss81@s... (1:09:25 AM): yes
anglss81@s... (1:09:31 AM): i would
littlewitch77 (1:09:48 AM): torromow hubby is boxing the computer, so
call me . if i am needed.
moordin (1:10:12 AM): it's called acceptance. If all agree to be
governed by a simplified set of rules, then it will work.
anglss81@s... (1:10:49 AM): moordin i would like that info
moordin (1:11:02 AM): give me a couple days and I will get it to you.
anglss81@s... (1:11:12 AM): ty u very much
thegirlcharr (1:11:51 AM): True enough, but if this is to be a
council of representatives of various groups, houses, etc... (which I
gather?) I have some advice for those who would be leaders...
the_lady_coral (1:12:06 AM): I invited Prince in here
Yahoo! Messenger (1:12:17 AM): theprinceofevil13 has joined the
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moordin (1:14:05 AM): give it a couple days and let me get those
papers together and you will see it will work well. and I wont even
be involved at any level.
anglss81@s... (1:14:28 AM): ok
anglss81@s... (1:14:33 AM): thats sad
anglss81@s... (1:14:44 AM): u sound like a good person to be
involed
anglss81@s... (1:15:57 AM): yes papers would be good
moordin (1:16:13 AM): alas I can not unless you intend to ressurrect
the Vok Counsil (can't really go into that right now), and even if
you were, then those of the Faddok Tallan would have to decide who
would represent it in the counsil. Might not be me.
anglss81@s... (1:16:42 AM): yes i know
anglss81@s... (1:16:48 AM): but that i must talk with u
anglss81@s... (1:16:53 AM): about when u can
moordin (1:16:55 AM): (nods)
thegirlcharr (1:17:10 AM): I noticed there was a very, very, very big
problem with the HOA, and Dividian as a leader. He wanted to help
people to grow, to find themselves, but in his way. Once he saw that
his authority was threatened because people were still trying to find
themselves, he went apeshit. A good leader, one whom other leaders
and members would respect, would not have a problem with letting her
members go with a kiss should they show a desire to explore other
Paths, other Truths, et cetera. One thing that every leader will need
to be able to do is recognize Seekers and understand when some people
are such. Seekers of Truth, Seekers of Self, Seekers of Whatever. A
good leader will acknowledge that what he has to offer is not right
for everyone, and will
moordin (1:17:11 AM): Would that be me? (chuckles)
anglss81@s... (1:17:22 AM): lol
anglss81@s... (1:17:46 AM): anyway just send me a tell when
u can talk
anglss81@s... (1:17:52 AM): about everthing
anglss81@s... (1:18:07 AM): and u do know about the Shadow
council
anglss81@s... (1:18:11 AM): of old
moordin (1:18:48 AM): Know of it? I was the Umbraova.
moordin (1:18:54 AM): (smiles gently)
anglss81@s... (1:18:59 AM): haha
Yahoo! Messenger (1:19:07 AM): the_lady_coral has left the conference.
anglss81@s... (1:19:13 AM): ok
moordin (1:19:26 AM): so if you know about that, then you know I am
on the level all the way around
anglss81@s... (1:19:27 AM): well my name is a secrect for now
lady_nessa_hoa (1:19:37 AM): I am inviting Tim
anglss81@s... (1:19:43 AM): k
anglss81@s... (1:19:47 AM): i will pm u
anglss81@s... (1:19:48 AM): it
lady_lilith_dreams (1:20:08 AM): cant playing a game while i talk. lol
Yahoo! Messenger (1:20:09 AM): theprinceofevil13 has left the
conference.
moordin (1:20:10 AM): I have free long distance if anyone wants me to
call them for a chat
thegirlcharr (1:20:15 AM): under his guidance who expresses a desire
to Seek elsewhere. With the understanding of Seekers and that they
need to explore before they settle, there should be a concensus
amongst the council that Seekers will not be regarded as traitors
unless they have genuinely betrayed a deep trust. Asking someone who
seems to be well-learned in an area they are Seeking is not a
betrayal of trust, but rather a time for one leader to turn to the
other and say, "It is time for you to have one of mine. Treat her
well."
Yahoo! Messenger (1:21:18 AM): the_lady_coral has joined the
conference.
thegirlcharr (1:21:36 AM): *hops off her soap box* With that, I'm
done. I wish the Council the best, but I felt that was a necessary to
share.
thegirlcharr (1:22:15 AM): Comments? Insults? Questions? Compliments?
Yahoo! Messenger (1:22:21 AM): i88invegas has joined the conference.
thegirlcharr (1:22:47 AM): Hi guys.
lady_lilith_dreams (1:22:49 AM): Hi Tim
anglss81@s... (1:22:53 AM): girl
thegirlcharr (1:23:04 AM): (No mic, so, yeah.)
anglss81@s... (1:23:06 AM): i will speak with u tomarrow
lady_nessa_hoa (1:23:12 AM): K
lady_nessa_hoa (1:23:18 AM): Love ya
moordin (1:23:48 AM): Charr is muted at the moment, hold on
moordin (1:24:00 AM): ok
moordin (1:25:36 AM): yak yak yak
littlewitch77 (1:26:00 AM): i back
thegirlcharr (1:27:08 AM): No need to respond to what I said, by the
way... *grumbles*
thegirlcharr (1:29:04 AM): Actually, it's more like everyone called
his bluff at once.
anglss81@s... (1:29:53 AM): death threats
thegirlcharr (1:30:44 AM): Div hands death threats out like candy.
moordin (1:31:38 AM): (holds out his hand) can I have a piece of
candy?
anglss81@s... (1:31:47 AM): lol
littlewitch77 (1:32:02 AM): what did i miss ?
lady_nessa_hoa (1:32:33 AM): The House of MA'AT
moordin (1:32:35 AM): nuttin honey
thegirlcharr (1:32:59 AM): ....does no one have any response to what
I said before?
moordin (1:33:11 AM): Mesopatamian...it means Balanced Fate actually.
moordin (1:33:31 AM): <----- Reads/Writes several dead languages
anglss81@s... (1:33:40 AM): lol
lady_nessa_hoa (1:33:53 AM): I can hear you silly girl.
moordin (1:34:35 AM): I am...discussing something ....curious
the_lady_coral (1:34:36 AM): sounds kinky LMAO
the_lady_coral (1:34:38 AM): tmi
lady_nessa_hoa (1:34:43 AM): LOL
lady_nessa_hoa (1:34:46 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:34:50 AM): Pink tacos
lady_nessa_hoa (1:34:56 AM): LOL
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:01 AM): Pink tacos
thegirlcharr (1:35:02 AM): *grabs Nessa for some*
lady_lilith_dreams (1:35:02 AM): Orgy
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:03 AM): Yeppie
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:08 AM): Yes
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:11 AM): LOL
thegirlcharr (1:35:14 AM): Daisy Chain!
littlewitch77 (1:35:22 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:23 AM): Pink taco
lady_lilith_dreams (1:35:27 AM): Target Practice
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:29 AM): Fyre
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:36 AM): You know what I mean
moordin (1:35:38 AM): hmmmm......did I miss sex? (snaps fingers) damn!
lady_lilith_dreams (1:35:40 AM): he missed
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:42 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:50 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:53 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:35:56 AM):
lady_lilith_dreams (1:36:03 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:36:07 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:36:13 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:36:22 AM):
lady_lilith_dreams (1:36:22 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:36:31 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:36:37 AM):
lady_lilith_dreams (1:36:41 AM): lol
thegirlcharr (1:36:41 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:36:45 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (1:36:53 AM): Fyre
thegirlcharr (1:36:54 AM): Your place or mine?
lady_nessa_hoa (1:37:00 AM): Who and Nina
lady_nessa_hoa (1:37:02 AM): LOL
thegirlcharr (1:37:05 AM): Yes'm?
lady_nessa_hoa (1:37:06 AM): Me and fyre
lady_lilith_dreams (1:37:08 AM): Cowboys have whips...heheh
lady_nessa_hoa (1:37:19 AM): "SLAP ON THE ASS"
lady_nessa_hoa (1:37:22 AM):
thegirlcharr (1:37:26 AM): *bounces* WOOT!
littlewitch77 (1:37:28 AM): my bull whips i have
moordin (1:37:40 AM): (raises hand) CHECK PLEASE!
littlewitch77 (1:38:12 AM): angel, sweety, u there
lady_nessa_hoa (1:38:23 AM): Moordin you want to watch...
moordin (1:38:35 AM): watch hell! I get part of this action, babe!
lady_nessa_hoa (1:38:46 AM): LOL
lady_lilith_dreams (1:38:46 AM):
thegirlcharr (1:38:57 AM): Nuh-huh! You know the rules, Moordin. I
get alone time with the ladies first, then you can join.
lady_nessa_hoa (1:39:01 AM):
lady_lilith_dreams (1:39:23 AM): a new sex toy?
lady_nessa_hoa (1:39:35 AM):
lady_lilith_dreams (1:39:42 AM): LOL
thegirlcharr (1:39:47 AM):
lady_lilith_dreams (1:39:51 AM): that looks like fun
lady_nessa_hoa (1:40:09 AM): Blow on Pink tacos
lady_lilith_dreams (1:40:27 AM): open wide
lady_nessa_hoa (1:40:45 AM): "slirp"
moordin (1:41:06 AM): wonders if he is about the only male in
here....looks at numbers and goes hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, outnumbered, I
love it
thegirlcharr (1:41:07 AM): No, you don't blow, you lick, taste,
savor, nibble, and enjoy!
lady_nessa_hoa (1:41:29 AM): Yeppers
lady_nessa_hoa (1:41:42 AM): Frye
lady_nessa_hoa (1:41:54 AM): Hayley asked me something?
thegirlcharr (1:42:06 AM): Oh, yes, and you enjoy the goodness when
the pink tacos tremble under your eating.
lady_nessa_hoa (1:42:45 AM): LOL
moordin (1:42:58 AM): I have something to say..... Hadje vey tok,
kotitic.. En-til-zah. An-Urush!
moordin (1:44:12 AM): It means....The world turns. Follow the old
way. You are the future now.
moordin (1:45:32 AM): The old way will not be agreeable to all.
Modern concepts don't permit the actual truth.
the_lady_coral (1:47:02 AM): I want to know it too
lady_nessa_hoa (1:47:09 AM): Me too
the_lady_coral (1:47:10 AM): same here Angel
moordin (1:48:27 AM): Honestly...to learn the ancient tongue means to
learn the ancient path and that alas, will most likely destroy much
of what you know as truths. But if you are prepared to walk that
path, we can show it to you. it will take most many years to learn.
littlewitch77 (1:49:52 AM): and i going to be your wife soon
thegirlcharr (1:50:20 AM): Care bear?!
thegirlcharr (1:50:26 AM): Creepy! One of my cousins has that
nickname!
moordin (1:50:31 AM): To learn the source of the self requires
dedication and a TNTF ritual, BUT it will reveal ALL of your past
lives all the way back to the first one. This is both good and bad.
(not to mention risky for the guide who could die in the process)
thegirlcharr (1:50:34 AM):
littlewitch77 (1:51:01 AM): well its pagancarebear
moordin (1:51:25 AM): how many others here share that thought?
moordin (1:51:30 AM): what he just said
thegirlcharr (1:51:32 AM): Ah, okies...my Care Bear doesn't know what
she is, other than a slut *giggles*
thegirlcharr (1:51:51 AM): Which thought? repeat, please?
thegirlcharr (1:52:43 AM): moordin: To learn the source of the self
requires dedication and a TNTF ritual, BUT it will reveal ALL of your
past lives all the way back to the first one. This is both good and
bad. (not to mention risky for the guide who could die in the process)
thegirlcharr (1:52:53 AM): moordin: Honestly...to learn the ancient
tongue means to learn the ancient path and that alas, will most
likely destroy much of what you know as truths. But if you are
prepared to walk that path, we can show it to you. it will take most
many years to learn.
lady_nessa_hoa (1:53:02 AM): Moordin. What about the submition thing?
thegirlcharr (1:53:02 AM): Out of order, but, still, I hope that
helps.
littlewitch77 (1:53:23 AM): ok
lady_nessa_hoa (1:53:28 AM): Yes
lady_nessa_hoa (1:53:33 AM): NO
lady_nessa_hoa (1:53:36 AM): that is not it
lady_nessa_hoa (1:53:46 AM): No
littlewitch77 (1:53:53 AM): brb
lady_nessa_hoa (1:53:54 AM): that is not what I was told
lady_nessa_hoa (1:54:02 AM): Moordin please explain
moordin (1:54:11 AM): If it is the Faddok Tallan that you will
follow, that too will be part of it, but not everything is as it
seems (yet another piece that was blown way out of porportion)
lady_nessa_hoa (1:54:14 AM): I dont want to take anything out of
content
thegirlcharr (1:54:38 AM): Submission in the Faddok Tallon is so that
a Sayyid or Sayyida can teach a student magickal control inside of
six months (usually three) that a Wiccan would take a year and a half
to teach.
thegirlcharr (1:55:06 AM): moordin: If it is the Faddok Tallan that
you will follow, that too will be part of it, but not everything is
as it seems (yet another piece that was blown way out of porportion)
moordin (1:55:53 AM): and yes, it is a submission in both senses of
the word. both in service (but not for the reasons you might think)
and as a student
thegirlcharr (1:55:55 AM): You didn't know about me until today, but,
I will tell you that you're going to have a huge surprise tomorrow
that will make you smile so hard you want to cry happy tears.
thegirlcharr (1:56:17 AM): moordin: and yes, it is a submission in
both senses of the word. both in service (but not for the reasons you
might think) and as a student
anglss81@s... (1:56:17 AM): ok
moordin (1:56:30 AM): best explained in full in person or over the
phone.
thegirlcharr (1:56:35 AM): Not everyone, just the lady who was
speaking, whose voice I do not yet recognize.
thegirlcharr (1:57:20 AM): Wrong about what, Angel?
moordin (1:57:21 AM): wisdom? nah...just have all the knowledge of
ALL of my lives, only real difference between me and anyone
moordin (1:57:39 AM): well that and several often annoying gifts LOL
lady_lilith_dreams (1:57:42 AM):
http://www.mdani.demon.co.uk/para/esp2.htm
anglss81@s... (1:57:55 AM): lol
thegirlcharr (1:57:55 AM): moordin: wisdom? nah...just have all the
knowledge of ALL of my lives, only real difference between me and
anyone moordin: well that and several often annoying gifts LOL
lady_lilith_dreams (1:57:56 AM): I am terrible
anglss81@s... (1:58:09 AM): well i got to go to bed
moordin (1:58:17 AM): sleep well.
anglss81@s... (1:58:23 AM): i am srry about will speak with
u tomarro
lady_lilith_dreams (1:58:24 AM): Sweet Dreams
anglss81@s... (1:58:26 AM): w
anglss81@s... (1:58:30 AM): i will
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moordin (1:59:00 AM): he had to sleep
lady_lilith_dreams (1:59:07 AM):
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/esp.html
moordin (2:00:00 AM): who did?
thegirlcharr (2:00:45 AM): ESP tests are bunk, imo. But that's just
my 2cents
lady_lilith_dreams (2:01:16 AM): Thanks, but no thanks.
moordin (2:01:22 AM): I must go AFK for a few min, we ran out of
smokes.
moordin (2:01:36 AM): just me
thegirlcharr (2:02:01 AM): I'm staying, no worries You still have
the cuter one to gah over
thegirlcharr (2:02:31 AM): It may have timed out, too. Mine does the
same sometimes
thegirlcharr (2:04:14 AM): Sorry to those who heard my sheep noise,
it just got too quiet, lol
lady_nessa_hoa (2:05:37 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (2:05:43 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (2:05:47 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (2:05:51 AM):
littlewitch77 (2:05:52 AM): well got go bed
lady_nessa_hoa (2:06:00 AM): K sweetie
lady_nessa_hoa (2:06:02 AM): Love ya
thegirlcharr (2:06:33 AM): Sleep sweet
lady_nessa_hoa (2:06:43 AM): Night night
littlewitch77 (2:07:01 AM):
thegirlcharr (2:07:09 AM): <---the broken heart almost looks like a
Pink Taco...closest I see on Yahoo!'s emoticons, anyway
littlewitch77 (2:07:22 AM): what??
lady_nessa_hoa (2:07:34 AM): I just farted.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:07:39 AM): sure
thegirlcharr (2:07:42 AM): HOA refugee...?
thegirlcharr (2:07:43 AM): rofl
lady_nessa_hoa (2:07:50 AM): Pewwww
Yahoo! Messenger (2:07:52 AM): horizon5555 has joined the conference.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:07:53 AM): stinky
Yahoo! Messenger (2:08:04 AM): littlewitch77 has left the conference.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:08:06 AM): Hello Eric
horizon5555 (2:08:12 AM): hi there nessa
lady_lilith_dreams (2:08:13 AM): Pounces on Horizon
lady_nessa_hoa (2:08:15 AM): On in and one out...LOL
horizon5555 (2:08:26 AM): mmmmmmmmmmm, feels good, lilith
thegirlcharr (2:08:28 AM): Kinky!
lady_lilith_dreams (2:08:44 AM):
horizon5555 (2:08:46 AM): nah - just assertive
lady_nessa_hoa (2:09:47 AM): We love that about you lilith
horizon5555 (2:10:04 AM): you have been more assertive as of late,
and for the first time in a long time, it appears to be across the
board, not just with me! lol
thegirlcharr (2:10:26 AM): You could always respond to what I said
earlier.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:10:47 AM): and that is. Please copy and pace
horizon5555 (2:11:04 AM): paste?
thegirlcharr (2:11:19 AM): Okies, gimme one sec, gotta scroll back
thegirlcharr (2:11:34 AM): I noticed there was a very, very, very big
problem with the HOA, and Dividian as a leader. He wanted to help
people to grow, to find themselves, but in his way. Once he saw that
his authority was threatened because people were still trying to find
themselves, he went apeshit. A good leader, one whom other leaders
and members would respect, would not have a problem with letting her
members go with a kiss should they show a desire to explore other
Paths, other Truths, et cetera. One thing that every leader will need
to be able to do is recognize Seekers and understand when some people
are such. Seekers of Truth, Seekers of Self, Seekers of Whatever. A
good leader will acknowledge that what he has to offer is not right
for everyone, and will humbly acknowledge the honesty of
someone....cont
thegirlcharr (2:11:41 AM): under his guidance who expresses a desire
to Seek elsewhere. With the understanding of Seekers and that they
need to explore before they settle, there should be a concensus
amongst the council that Seekers will not be regarded as traitors
unless they have genuinely betrayed a deep trust. Asking someone who
seems to be well-learned in an area they are Seeking is not a
betrayal of trust, but rather a time for one leader to turn to the
other and say, "It is time for you to have one of mine. Treat her
well."
Yahoo! Messenger (2:14:06 AM): blk_hwk_vamp has joined the conference.
thegirlcharr (2:14:30 AM): It got quiet again, like the last time I
said it... o.O *checks her deodorant*
thegirlcharr (2:15:56 AM): *hangs herself*
moordin (2:16:08 AM): I am back
thegirlcharr (2:16:12 AM): Sheesh, y'all won't even respond to a
public hanging!
lady_lilith_dreams (2:16:19 AM): Hey Holly
lady_nessa_hoa (2:16:29 AM): Hello Holly...
thegirlcharr (2:16:59 AM): Can no one see what I type?
lady_nessa_hoa (2:17:06 AM): Yes
lady_nessa_hoa (2:17:11 AM): Kind of hear ya
lady_nessa_hoa (2:17:21 AM): Turn up your valum
blk_hwk_vamp (2:17:28 AM): is dividian taking part in this chat?
horizon5555 (2:17:36 AM): thegirlcharr >>>> while all of those points
are well taken, this matter just exposes why he started the group in
the first place. It does not appear that he was trying to better
anything or anyone other than his own inflated perception of himself
as a leader of a group.
blk_hwk_vamp (2:17:50 AM): I do not have voice
blk_hwk_vamp (2:17:59 AM): so I will say my peace and leave
lady_nessa_hoa (2:18:17 AM): You dont have to leave Holly?
thegirlcharr (2:18:19 AM): Oh, I'm not saying that my words were
really for or about Div. They were advice for those who want to be
leaders themselves.
blk_hwk_vamp (2:18:20 AM): I am feeling betrayed and I am very
upset.....
lady_nessa_hoa (2:18:21 AM): We love you
blk_hwk_vamp (2:18:36 AM): i do not feel love from this room right
now.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:18:46 AM): Well we love you
thegirlcharr (2:18:47 AM): o.O
blk_hwk_vamp (2:18:48 AM): I feel manipulation at its finest.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:18:52 AM): You didnt do nothing to us
thegirlcharr (2:18:55 AM):
lady_nessa_hoa (2:18:59 AM): By who?
blk_hwk_vamp (2:19:02 AM): i used to think we were all a family.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:19:04 AM):
blk_hwk_vamp (2:19:22 AM): by you and lilith dreams.
lady_nessa_hoa (2:19:31 AM): we are and we will always beone
lady_nessa_hoa (2:19:47 AM): I mean a family
lady_nessa_hoa (2:20:00 AM): why do you feel this way? What did you
hear?
blk_hwk_vamp (2:20:43 AM): LORD DIVIDIAN WILL NOT be talked badly
about behind his back. i do not care how many times he might hang up
on you. or tell you who your freineds are or anything else. he will
teach about REAL VAMPIRISM at all times..... roleplaying is for
gamers...... NOTHING MORE
blk_hwk_vamp (2:21:11 AM): htis is why he is upset
blk_hwk_vamp (2:21:16 AM): this***
blk_hwk_vamp (2:21:26 AM): you do not know
lady_lilith_dreams (2:21:32 AM): then why is he siding with the role
players over Nessa
blk_hwk_vamp (2:21:50 AM): please tell me what the FUCK IS GOING ON
THEN
blk_hwk_vamp (2:22:04 AM): YES
thegirlcharr (2:22:08 AM): ....
the_lady_coral (2:22:17 AM): Holly can you hear us?
horizon5555 (2:22:25 AM): thegirlcharr >>>>> then those points are
accurate.
blk_hwk_vamp (2:22:30 AM): I am FUCKING ATTACKING NESSA FOR THE WRONG
REASONS?????????????????????????????????????????????
blk_hwk_vamp (2:22:34 AM): HELLO
blk_hwk_vamp (2:22:41 AM): i dont care
blk_hwk_vamp (2:22:52 AM): I JUST want to get to the bottom of this
thegirlcharr (2:22:56 AM): Horizon >>> Thank you
blk_hwk_vamp (2:23:07 AM): move past the drama
blk_hwk_vamp (2:23:11 AM): hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
blk_hwk_vamp (2:23:15 AM): right
thegirlcharr (2:23:32 AM): Nessa's getting the info for you, but it's
a lot to break down.
blk_hwk_vamp (2:25:15 AM): (listening)
Yahoo! Messenger (2:26:50 AM): moordin has left the conference.
Yahoo! Messenger (2:27:38 AM): moordin has joined the conference.
blk_hwk_vamp (2:27:58 AM): who?????
blk_hwk_vamp (2:28:04 AM): dividian
blk_hwk_vamp (2:28:08 AM): yes
blk_hwk_vamp (2:29:15 AM): no
thegirlcharr (2:29:22 AM): Who got death threats from Div? Raise your
hand.
blk_hwk_vamp (2:29:23 AM): I want to hear your voice
thegirlcharr (2:29:25 AM): *raise*
blk_hwk_vamp (2:29:43 AM): hell I have got those before
blk_hwk_vamp (2:30:01 AM): he will not kill u |
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